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Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:38 pm
East Blue Buggy was actually very powerful feat-wise. Especially when it comes to durability. After seeing what happened to Minotauros, I don't think many people can just shrug off a buggy or muggy ball and Buggy was hit by both and wasn't damaged at all. If you go back to Buggy's first arc there was a moment in his fight with Luffy where Luffy says something like "you're still alive?". When he was hit by the lightning, his crewmate asks "you survived that?" When WB met with Shanks, WB asked him "is that big nose still alive?". At Marineford, the first thing WB says to Buggy is "I see you're still alive". It seems that Buggy has a history of surviving things that he shouldn't be able to survive. Buggy has also never been beaten. He's been defeated by Luffy + Nami and again by Hannyabal, but in both cases ropes were used to bind him. He was never knocked unconscious in the way other villains have. These things are the reason why I believe Buggy is a lot stronger than people give him credit for. Both the readers and the characters in the manga. I think Oda is protecting him for a reason other than him being his favorite character. He has plot relevance.

Also, the prisoners promised to follow Buggy forever long before they found out he was on Roger's crew. They were following him ever since he freed them and they didn't know he was with Roger until the ship ride to Marineford. Galdino was also following him despite knowing who he truly is. Buggy has the ability to gain allies regardless of his reputation. I also don't recall the Marines ever saying Buggy was not a threat. WB said something like that to Marco after he allied with Buggy during Marineford. WB never said Buggy was weak or that he wasn't a threat. He said "I don't know about the big nose, but I don't want to have those convicts as an enemy".

Anyway, Buggy doesn't have to be Yonkou level to be a threat to a Yonkou. That's like saying Lex Luther has to be as strong as Superman to be a threat to him. I don't compare Buggy to Luffy in that way because he would lose badly if he tries to match Luffy at his own game. I compare Buggy more to Usopp where the majority of his power comes from his weapons. We've seen how devastating a buster call is. A single buggy ball can wipe out an entire town. Now imagine a fleet shooting buggy balls at a Yonkou's island or at a Yonkou during a naval battle.

Edit: Also during Impel Down, Buggy saw Luffy use G2 against the Blugori and G3 against the cockatrice and even remarked that Luffy has gotten a lot stronger since they last met. He was still confident that he could beat Luffy. That might stem from Buggy's overconfidence, but I just wanted to throw that out there.
Oh, I 100% agree that Buggy has plot relevance...but it's with the caveat that he is purely comedic relief. Oda made his favorite character 100% protected by plot armor. He shouldn't be alive because he is too weak and has made zero progress other than being able to buy better explosives (we see an upgrade to his Bubby Ball in a movie or maybe in the main plot when he is a Shichibukai). It was upgraded per his own words for the Minotaur, but his lack of progress is exactly why it does nothing. I'm a fan of underdogs, so I like Buggy if I ignore his annoying side. Oda has some sort of plan where Buggy (and something with his fruit ability probably ) is going to play a key role at the ending of the series. I am already in 100% agreement on this, so I probably have to make this clear.

When they are making the decision to appoint the new Shichibukai, someone states that Buggy is not a threat, but the pirates under him are. The exact same things on his ties to Roger and Shanks carry notoriety so they approve his appointing. Everyone's comments and all of Buggy's fighting (or complete lack since he always flees) reflects him being the same as how he was in East Blue.

Wait...are you going to say you expect Buggy to take on a Yonkou? Buggy himself will say he will never do something like that. He always says he doesn't want to do anything to jeopardize his safety. He always acts tough and makes an excuse to delegate it to someone else. When he is forced into something, it is when plot armor comes along and keeps him safe (the cover story, Luffy in Impel Down, or his powerful underlings ever since).

What has Buggy himself shown other than weapons that can be bought/given while he was a Shichibukai? He uses his flying ability to make himself look bigger in his Shichibukai getup. There is nothing based on his combat capabilities that has changed other than his Buggy Ball.
 

Buggy doesn't buy the explosives. He created them himself. Buggy is also more of a comic relief in the anime than he was in the manga. He's as much of a comic relief character as Luffy is.

I honestly don't remember the Marines saying that about Buggy. I don't remember there being a meeting for Buggy either. They just sent the bat with the invitation right after the war.

I'm saying Buggy has the firepower to be a threat to anyone in the series.

What has someone like Usopp done other than gain new weapons? Observation haki? You can't compare Buggy to a brawler type character because that's not what kind of fighter he is. A lot of characters would be worthless without their weapons. Take Franky's upgrades away. How has Franky improved over the skip?


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Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:51 am
Unpopular opinion:

The 2 year gap ruined it for me. It’s when I started to detach a bit from both the anime and the manga. I get that they had to learn to be strong on their own or whatever, but I just didn’t like it. Brooke and Franky had been added to the crew relatively recently before that and I felt that they never got the same emotional bonding time the rest of the crew had. They missed a few key hardships prior to the split and I felt they didn’t get the crew bonding time they deserved. It made me sad cause I felt that if I had a bit more time to be attached to them properly I would’ve liked them as characters much more too.

Probs gonna get hate for this but oh well!
I do agree with the fact that the pre-time skip had a bigger impact than post-time skip (there's a really good explanation and review about this but I forgot the link). The pre-timeskip is basically character driven and post-time skip is plot-driven. Since the whole plot of OP is complex, (with a lot of things connected to each other), it's actually understandable, and necessary. I also wasn't a big fan of the arcs after Dressrosa (even Dressrosa was pretty draggy), but Wano so far has been amazing. And I'm looking forward to the war that Oda was talking about. Though, I do think Zoro needs a little story here, like Marco said.


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GoldenVenus wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:03 pm
random. wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:51 am
Unpopular opinion:

The 2 year gap ruined it for me. It’s when I started to detach a bit from both the anime and the manga. I get that they had to learn to be strong on their own or whatever, but I just didn’t like it. Brooke and Franky had been added to the crew relatively recently before that and I felt that they never got the same emotional bonding time the rest of the crew had. They missed a few key hardships prior to the split and I felt they didn’t get the crew bonding time they deserved. It made me sad cause I felt that if I had a bit more time to be attached to them properly I would’ve liked them as characters much more too.

Probs gonna get hate for this but oh well!
I do agree with the fact that the pre-time skip had a bigger impact than post-time skip (there's a really good explanation and review about this but I forgot the link). The pre-timeskip is basically character driven and post-time skip is plot-driven. Since the whole plot of OP is complex, (with a lot of things connected to each other), it's actually understandable, and necessary. I also wasn't a big fan of the arcs after Dressrosa (even Dressrosa was pretty draggy), but Wano so far has been amazing. And I'm looking forward to the war that Oda was talking about. Though, I do think Zoro needs a little story here, like Marco said.
I haven’t gotten to Wano yet since, as I mentioned, kinda dropped off the band wagon a bit after the gap. Plus, some of my favorite characters died. Maybe I’ll try to catch up again and become invested in the plot. I mean. I did like the plot and in other cases really like plot driven stories, but I do miss the character development. The characters are what made it for me in the first place and post-timeskip they’re a bit flat.


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Mr. Mxy wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:32 am
Oda was probably rejected by really hot girl and then ended up marrying comparatively fat girl with similar face.

Viola! We solved the mystery behind Oda's lacklustre effort towards female characters.
This definitely would be funny if it is what happened.
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In fact, I hate any kind of style where they draw unnecessarily 'nice body and big boobs' to attract horny mfs. Like, Rebecca is like 16 and he drew her like that???

@Yumavo Cado look it’s a Rebecca thread now come play with us

Also yeah I don’t like it at all, and quite a few female characters Oda’s drawn post-TS that are popular with men are very young - Pudding, Shirahoshi and Rebecca are all 16. It’s one thing to draw them in a certain way, but it’s entirely another to have adult male characters fawn over them. It’s a deep rooted problem in the anime industry that’s probably not going away any time soon, but it’s disappointing nonetheless.
Oh man...I definitely can 100% understand the Rebecca hate (nothing unique and annoying characteristics). The weight restriction for armor was a poor reason to have her getup to be so minimalistic.
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Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:51 am
Unpopular opinion:

The 2 year gap ruined it for me. It’s when I started to detach a bit from both the anime and the manga. I get that they had to learn to be strong on their own or whatever, but I just didn’t like it. Brooke and Franky had been added to the crew relatively recently before that and I felt that they never got the same emotional bonding time the rest of the crew had. They missed a few key hardships prior to the split and I felt they didn’t get the crew bonding time they deserved. It made me sad cause I felt that if I had a bit more time to be attached to them properly I would’ve liked them as characters much more too.

Probs gonna get hate for this but oh well!
topic909

The article discussed here is probably at least part of not liking current One Piece content. Oda does the exact same literary techniques for character development (excluding the plot). So I truly think it is just the overall "feel" of the plot that makes it seem so different.

So actually, most people are in agreement with you. The minority of people like the different plot type.

Ah, I got something contribute now (came up in a long discussion): the vast majority of people have absolutely no idea what it means to master a skill.


Back to the blind Oda faith (until the next B.S. of course).
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Not going to lie here but the thing is that almost all anime/manga stories have terrible female portrayals unless they are completely targetted towards female. There is a reason why for very long time whenever anyone mentioned anime people immediately thought hentai where I live :pikajoy:


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Mr. Mxy wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:36 am
There is a reason why for very long time whenever anyone mentioned anime people immediately thought hentai where I live
The flaws of Japanese pervy-ness stereotyped perfectly! It's definitely a "well earned" reputation.


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seiryu wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:50 am
Mr. Mxy wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:36 am
There is a reason why for very long time whenever anyone mentioned anime people immediately thought hentai where I live
The flaws of Japanese pervy-ness stereotyped perfectly! It's definitely a "well earned" reputation.We

Its a shame really, Japanese people generally have good reputation for everything else, only this part and similar thing in porn industry. We are at a point where me need international intervention of sort :pikajoy:


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Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:10 am
Its a shame really, Japanese people generally have good reputation for everything else, only this part and similar thing in porn industry. We are at a point where me need international intervention of sort
Did you ever hear my story on how there used to be porn mags on the street displays? Not in the book/magazine section, not in some observable partially supervised section, but essentially as the flagship attractor to get people to browse around. It has at least started to change relative to this all time low (from what I know at least...), but per reality, it's still got a LONG way to go for sure.


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seiryu wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:46 am
Mr. Mxy wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:10 am
Its a shame really, Japanese people generally have good reputation for everything else, only this part and similar thing in porn industry. We are at a point where me need international intervention of sort
Did you ever hear my story on how there used to be porn mags on the street displays? Not in the book/magazine section, not in some observable partially supervised section, but essentially as the flagship attractor to get people to browse around. It has at least started to change relative to this all time low (from what I know at least...), but per reality, it's still got a LONG way to go for sure.

No, but it's good to hear that currently at least it is changing. All cultures have some things they need to iron out.


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Ooh here’s one for ya

The only character I would be okay with adding to the Straw Hat crew is Yamato. As popular as she is, I just don’t see Carrot being all that useful...

I actually think the current 10 would be more than fine to take us to the end of the series, but Yamato would be useful for firepower.


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