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Isn't spur of the moment/go with the flow the general theme of being a Mugiwara? The mature members start off sticking to their previous mannerisms, but they are forced into with all of Luffy's shenanigans. Oda can't just change 22-23 years of consistency.Kurowara wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:34 amI would have liked very much if it had been clearly stated that they were looking for an alternative way to get in, but that is not what it looked like.
One of the SH : "Everyone has already gone"
Franky : "We're going to catch up with them in no time"
=> they were taken short, remaining behind was not something planned beforehand. I would have much preferred if them trying to snitch in by some hidden paths was clearly part of the initial plan, rather than being improvised in ten seconds and in the most random way possible.
And Luffy is that sort of simple-minded idiot. You're applying the rational course of action for both of these. Of course the manga will go smoother if Luffy does the rational thing all the time. That negates a bunch of the drama. Plus, in this instance, this starts the action. I guess I should ask, do you think they can legitimately defeat Kaidou?Kurowara wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:34 amI don't think it works in such a binary way. Right now, acting "according to his morale" would be doing the exact same error Ace did. If repeats this error, then he would have learned nothing, and would ruin the plan, and for what ? Because two random guys are insulting Okobore ?
Right now, being strong would be not to give in to his emotions.
Emotionnaly, seeing him struggle not to punch these guys would be much more intense than him immediately going like "What did you say ! Tama is my friend ! Stop insulting my friend !"
If Zoro somehow safely wanders next to Orochi and cuts him down...that'd be perfect! Zoro's gonna be drinking, so he's got the best camouflage.GoldenVenus wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 5:57 pm- I love the Luffy and Zoro joke lol XD But I have a feeling Zoro will end up somewhere crucial.
- Why didn't Kanjuro draw a bird and fly to where Orochi and Kaido are? Is it because it's too far? Or is it because his state of mind affectshis drawings?
As for Kanjurou, the answer is probably him being an enemy. He can't fly straight in because there are still guards everywhere. This is why he goes to the secret entrance.
Considering it is big enough to prioritize over the Kaidou/Big Mom alliance, it's gotta be something unique! I can't think of anything, so I'm just going to look forward to it.GoldenVenus wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 5:57 pm- I'm intrigued about Yamato and Kaido's important announcement related to his son. What could it be? A future captain of the Beast Pirates? Or something else?
- I'm guessing Yamato is the 'I don't give a shit' type too based on what they said. Or could it be that he gets lost easily like a certain someone?
There's an overhead shot later and it shows Jack being much bigger than King and being roughly the same size as Kaidou.GoldenVenus wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 5:57 pmI was wondering the same thing too. Bu it could be because of the angle too. It's from a low angle. For camera shot we call it low-angle shot, to make the subject appear more powerful. And Kaido's sitting down too. But, well, I need to see Jack and Kaido next to each other to confirm.
To be politically correct, Oda avoids the topic completely but morals always trump everything in One Piece. There's a reason why we don't have complexity of gray area of morals. Even the first example of Pudding was simplified to the pro-Sanji side and the pro-Big Mom side. I'm just going to point out the overlap with Shanks and the mountain bandit. There's a reason for all of this.GoldenVenus wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 5:57 pmI know people say that Luffy would explode, but I get the feeling he won't. He would be mad of course, but looking at that expression, it looks like he's burning but holding it in. Perhaps he'd direct the anger towards something else, or something else might happen before he bursts out in anger.
Also, regarding morals of his character, I know that mangakas tend to stick to a character's trait. In Luffy's case, his recklessness. But in writing, there's always room for character development (this depends on the author whether he wants to make it happen or not) so yeah, things could change I think. But if Luffy is still gonna make a scene right then and there, I have nothing else to say XD
Thanks.Marco Polo wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 8:43 pmUpdated the scan link since the one provided wasn't working.
She wanted to though based on her reaction after Brook takes her seat.
Yup, we have some potential great teamwork. The characters overlap with their key personality traits so Oda's got something planned!Marco Polo wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 8:43 pm> There's some interesting groupings going on with the Straw Hats... I'm guessing the three groups end up getting separated. Sanji is likely protecting the weak trio (with support from Usopp/Shinobu), and Jinbe/Robin and Franky/Brook are very solid pairings.
Yup, the disbanding of the crew upon the death of Kaidou's dream is the negation of the threat.Marco Polo wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 8:43 pm> There's a lot of tension within Kaido's crew, and I think that could be their undoing.
There's a clear tier difference. Page One and the physically smaller Tobi Roppou are implied to be on a different level from the larger three (Who's Who being the same size as Sasaki was surprising). At least we know Sanji's at the level of some New World captains. He needs to master his Raid Suit in this arc though.Marco Polo wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 8:43 pm> Also, does this mean the Tobi Roppo are close to Commander level? If so, that means we have to re-evaluate the Sanji vs. Page One encounter.
Nice, looking forward to it!Marco Polo wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 8:43 pmUpdated the scan link since the one provided wasn't working.
> Is... Momo going to try and fight Kanjuro?
> Of course Luffy and Zoro have gone off on their own... looks like the alliance's cover will be blown pretty quickly, if Kidd cause trouble first. A Luffy/Zoro/Kidd teamup would be a lot of fun, though.
> Brook saving us from the shipping wars by getting on Franky's hog. Nice. That being said, Robin seemed surprisingly keen.
> There's some interesting groupings going on with the Straw Hats... I'm guessing the three groups end up getting separated. Sanji is likely protecting the weak trio (with support from Usopp/Shinobu), and Jinbe/Robin and Franky/Brook are very solid pairings.
> Somehow, despite his stellar reputation, Jinbe fits in well with this group of idiots, lol.
> Who's following the Straw Hats? Could it be...
> There's a lot of tension within Kaido's crew, and I think that could be their undoing.
> The "find my son" mission seems like a sure-fire way to have the Straw Hats meet Tobi Roppo members.
> Also, does this mean the Tobi Roppo are close to Commander level? If so, that means we have to re-evaluate the Sanji vs. Page One encounter.
> AH I think I know what Kaido's announcement is going to be. Theory coming soon.
> Luffy straight up asking one of the Beast Pirates if they've seen Kidd is, well... classic Luffy.
> That last page with Luffy reacting to the spilled soup is really well drawn - is the slowed release schedule giving Oda more time to touch up his drawings?
Back to the blind Oda faith (until the next B.S. of course).
