Moderator: seiryu
More good stuff right there! Hard to argue with those and, again, those designs were nothing to shake a stick at either. Bellemere is one of my favorites.
This is more a ding on Oda, but man...reading your post just highlights the lack of creativity to have character development for females. Just like attractive females all pretty much looking the same, Oda's been using the same plot aspects over and over. Can we get a legit female powerhouse that's not an eccentric/wacky design?WeebyWitch wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:17 amMore good stuff right there! Hard to argue with those and, again, those designs were nothing to shake a stick at either. Bellemere is one of my favorites.
That being said, Komurasaki kind of has a special place in my heart. I know she’s really the Kozuki girl and all that but the character design and the way she antagonized Orochi still makes me all a flutter.
@Marco Polo Boa Hancock is actually a good example of trauma bonding and unhealthy relationship patterns. The lengths to which she’s willing to go to support her feelings for the first kindness and decency she’s received from a male is unhealthy in the extreme. The fact that she’s incapable of distinguishing healthy interactions and subsumed her normal protective instincts and behaviors so entirely in such an utter about face when dealt the simplest of basic human kindness shows how utterly broken she was and easy to manipulate. The idea that strong women love by moving heaven and earth, bending over backwards to do anything for their partners is actually a bit toxic—especially in this circumstance where there’s an unrequited love by an abuse survivor.
I’m not refuting anything that you’ve brought up. I just thought that I’d make a few points that came to mind on the topic. ^_^
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WeebyWitch wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 3:02 pmYeah my point was that she’s fine as a character so long as she’s examined in light of those aspects and taken seriously as such. There’s nothing wrong with highlighting these issues. They’re real, they happen and they need to be addressed because it’s life in the world that we face. In fact, the inability to draw/write a female who doesn’t have some sort of issues is further proof of what sort of world we live in. All his male characters are flawed as well, let’s not forget. It’s the very human nature of the people in One Piece that make them so relatable.seiryu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:01 amThis is more a ding on Oda, but man...reading your post just highlights the lack of creativity to have character development for females. Just like attractive females all pretty much looking the same, Oda's been using the same plot aspects over and over. Can we get a legit female powerhouse that's not an eccentric/wacky design?
[mention]Monster Trio[/mention] Dadan gets slept on for real but she was great.
Oh, for sure. I definitely 100% agree with all of this. Thankfully, Oda has been able to improve on his weaknesses and doesn't settle for an already amazing level of work. I do like his balance of utilizing the increased leeway the WSJ execs are giving across their entire magazine (it was a sudden introduction with a whole bunch of new series).WeebyWitch wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 3:24 pmYeah my point was that she’s fine as a character so long as she’s examined in light of those aspects and taken seriously as such. There’s nothing wrong with highlighting these issues. They’re real, they happen and they need to be addressed because it’s life in the world that we face. In fact, the inability to draw/write a female who doesn’t have some sort of issues is further proof of what sort of world we live in. All his male characters are flawed as well, let’s not forget. It’s the very human nature of the people in One Piece that make them so relatable.
@Monster Trio Dadan gets slept on for real but she was great.
