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Maybe I'm completely missing something, but I'm not catching the color spread. Looks like Tsukasa's old base and everyone saying peace. Just saying bye to Japan?

If this watch-expert manages to figure out the science behind Medusa...damn!

Something tells me Kurare is even accurate on animals shown to be hunted on top of the environmental changes from a pretty severe La Nina. But throughout the chapter, Chelsea felt like a natural part of the group and her personality did break the tension over getting shot down by Stan.

The height and weight page seems like such a huge fan-service (at least for those in Japan since they obsess over measurables and blood types). Similarly, there's a whole bunch of funny faces added in by Bochi throughout the chapter.

I can remember the manga team already teasing us with at least three or so steps necessary to get to the Medusa epicenter (I think there's rafts after the ropeway). Either way, I'm curious to see the creativity necessary to get this operational. Someone has to climb ahead and get the higher connection in place even before attempting any transportation. This seems like a bigger undertaking than usual, so I'm super excited for the next few chapters!

The bike scene is amazing haha and I can't wait to see it animated. I have to read a few things like a few times because of all the science stuff btw But it's definitely super intriguing. And using the ropeway. Wow. Things just keep getting better and interesting!

Stanley is super persistent tho lol. i wish he'd just stop already but well I do understand they need that 'obstacle' before being able to reach where they're headed to. Makes me wonder what can make Stanley stop.

It's definitely interesting that the original device is in Amazon. (what could be a better place for an adventure right?) But it does make me curious if there's a specific reason why it has to be there.

Also this was in ch174, but that panel of Taiju referencing the Straw Hats when they were leaving Vivi back in Alabasta was superb!

seiryu wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:08 am

If this watch-expert manages to figure out the science behind Medusa...damn!

I'm definitely intrigued to see how they're going to explain the mechanism behind it. And the reason behind its healing properties. Like, what's the actual purpose of the one who caused it? (most likely the why man). If they want to wipe out the human existence, killing would be easier. But they choose to turn human to stones, and when one breaks out of it, the stone heals any injury? Pretty strange to me.

And there's also the fact only humans and swallows are affected. I'm not knowledgeable enough about science to come up with any theories so I definitely can't wait to find out.

Wow, how are they gonna manage to build a lift?

GoldenVenus wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:01 pm

And there's also the fact only humans and swallows are affected.

Huh, I forgot about the swallows. Does that mean Tsubakura would be double affected? (Tsubakura is a character from Len'en who, while not being a swallow, is designed after a swallow, hence my dumb little joke.)

Obscure references aside, I do wonder what the correlation is (and I hope someone unfreezes all those swallows, they should be free).

GoldenVenus wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:01 pm

The bike scene is amazing haha and I can't wait to see it animated. I have to read a few things like a few times because of all the science stuff btw But it's definitely super intriguing. And using the ropeway. Wow. Things just keep getting better and interesting!

Stanley is super persistent tho lol. i wish he'd just stop already but well I do understand they need that 'obstacle' before being able to reach where they're headed to. Makes me wonder what can make Stanley stop.

It's definitely interesting that the original device is in Amazon. (what could be a better place for an adventure right?) But it does make me curious if there's a specific reason why it has to be there.

Also this was in ch174, but that panel of Taiju referencing the Straw Hats when they were leaving Vivi back in Alabasta was superb!

Yes, I'm surprised yet not surprised that the manga team keeps outdoing their previous action! As for Stan, he won't stop until the end of the arc when Xeno tells him that they are joining the team (at least Senku knows Stan has the intention of killing all of them now that they made him go on this chase for Xeno).

The adventure part is probably the whole point by Why-man! It has to be done in secrecy and had to be hidden even satellites until just before the actual attack.

Yup! It was somewhat discreet when they left the America group, but the lab car was just direct reference to One Piece!

GoldenVenus wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:01 pm

I'm definitely intrigued to see how they're going to explain the mechanism behind it. And the reason behind its healing properties. Like, what's the actual purpose of the one who caused it? (most likely the why man). If they want to wipe out the human existence, killing would be easier. But they choose to turn human to stones, and when one breaks out of it, the stone heals any injury? Pretty strange to me.

And there's also the fact only humans and swallows are affected. I'm not knowledgeable enough about science to come up with any theories so I definitely can't wait to find out.

In terms of the healing properties, the manga "oversimplification of science" is that the human body is completely being turned to stone (with the magical preservation of brain function/soul). Since stone does not have diseases, tears, etc. these are all eliminated upon de-petrification. Considering the series' title, safe to assume it will come up over and over (if I read things correctly, they just need to make a new diamond in the necessary shape to recharge this Medusa).

As for the mechanism, I have to assume it takes this guy the entire series. For me, I don't want him figuring it out until Senku is already in space. The trick helps him win against Why-man.

The human/swallow aspect is just manga magic. The swallow side might have zero significance in the rest of the series and might only be what Why-man chose to do his experimentation on.

MagicalMelancholy wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:51 pm

Wow, how are they gonna manage to build a lift?

For real right?! I can't wait to see this part! I mean the first thing that comes to mind is some of the crazy engineering/leverage ideas Egyptians and Rapa Nui residents (the giant faces on Easter Island), but there's got to be some sort of major twist.

MagicalMelancholy wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:51 pm

Huh, I forgot about the swallows. Does that mean Tsubakura would be double affected? (Tsubakura is a character from Len'en who, while not being a swallow, is designed after a swallow, hence my dumb little joke.)

Obscure references aside, I do wonder what the correlation is (and I hope someone unfreezes all those swallows, they should be free).

Haha. A reference I actually got! But with corn city, all the humans and all the swallows will be de-petrified, 10-billion percent sure!

seiryu wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:22 pm

all the humans and all the swallows will be de-petrified, 10-billion percent sure!

I'm just worried everyone will forget the swallows. Don't forget them, please.

seiryu wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:22 pm

As for the mechanism, I have to assume it takes this guy the entire series. For me, I don't want him figuring it out until Senku is already in space. The trick helps him win against Why-man.

The human/swallow aspect is just manga magic. The swallow side might have zero significance in the rest of the series and might only be what Why-man chose to do his experimentation on.

It'll definitely be an on-going mystery (for now) and it does keep things more mysterious and intriguing. Which reminds me, why man must've gone to the moon for the attack right? But considering that the moon is still pretty far from the earth, Medusa must be really impressive to reach that distance. (I was totally lost reading the chapter of them explaining all the distance etc lmao)

Also, yeah it might be possible the swallows were just part of the initial random test. But if you think about it, if why man just wanted to test the petri-beam, he could just pick any random animals tbh. Why swallows specifically? Why not just a random pick? Is there any genetic similarities between swallows and humans?

I've read a theory somewhere that petri-beam might be a form of virus, but since it originates from a device, I'm not sure how to connect them together.

GoldenVenus wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:02 pm

It'll definitely be an on-going mystery (for now) and it does keep things more mysterious and intriguing. Which reminds me, why man must've gone to the moon for the attack right? But considering that the moon is still pretty far from the earth, Medusa must be really impressive to reach that distance. (I was totally lost reading the chapter of them explaining all the distance etc lmao)

Also, yeah it might be possible the swallows were just part of the initial random test. But if you think about it, if why man just wanted to test the petri-beam, he could just pick any random animals tbh. Why swallows specifically? Why not just a random pick? Is there any genetic similarities between swallows and humans?

I've read a theory somewhere that petri-beam might be a form of virus, but since it originates from a device, I'm not sure how to connect them together.

My personal bias is that there has to be some sort of different mechanism for the South America Medusa. It could be as low tech as a speaker, a timer, or even some sort of remote activation.

I assume Why-man was on the moon since a Medusa shield seems super overpowered now that I think about it. As for the distance, context implies the atmosphere restricts the Medusa waves. Even the visualization in the first episode/chapter implies this to me. But yea, there was a whole bunch of info and it didn't help that they made the experimentation look like they were playing with bubbles.

My bias is that why man made the device and just randomly tested it to see if it worked or didn't (probably lots of failures). So the diversity of a rain forest might be a part of why the why man base was in South America. Scientifically, it is astronomically harder to make something tailored to something specific (so why man had a hunch on the manga magic specific to humans). He made a prototype and had to just randomly test to see if any animal/organism was affected. There presumably had to be human experimentation too (thus the isolation is a huge part to minimize the world learning of the strange phenomenon). Which in turn necessitated more testing on sparrows as the fine tuning and eventual perfection was achieved.

It was in the anime discussion but Weeby had mentioned something about our diet/metabolic break down was very similar. So this gut/digestive aspect does create more leeway for a viral source (only thing is manga exaggeration since it is directly correlated with the light touching the body parts => i.e. 100% possible to only have partial petrification).

As for the reason the swallows were chosen, they’re one of the only species, aside from bacteria and viruses which is known to have evolved alongside humans. So it’s the fact that there’s a co-evolutionary relationship that is the most likely reason that the swallows were chosen. This is different than a domesticated type relationship. For more information on the swallows thing, you can check out this article as it contains similar information to other research that I’ve read.

Anyways, I really enjoy Chelsea and can’t wait to see the next thing that they build.

WeebyWitch wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:59 pm

As for the reason the swallows were chosen, they’re one of the only species, aside from bacteria and viruses which is known to have evolved alongside humans. So it’s the fact that there’s a co-evolutionary relationship that is the most likely reason that the swallows were chosen. This is different than a domesticated type relationship. For more information on the swallows thing, you can check out this article as it contains similar information to other research that I’ve read.

Anyways, I really enjoy Chelsea and can’t wait to see the next thing that they build.

Haha...good thing you caught up! It is crazy how much research on references Kurare makes. She's the real MVP of the series.