Luffy & Roger's Dream - The Secret Oda's Been Keeping From Us...

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seiryu wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:48 pm
Wait, I want to clarify something. I'm reading all of this as just indicating the gist/direction of the real dream. None of us are directly coming up with the sentence because there is this "real ending" twist that Oda wants none of us to ever figure out. I think we're on the same page and that you have a funny idea on this "twist".

Yeah exactly. I think Oda’s twist and Luffy’s dream are two separate things, though. The Laugh Tale chapter suggests there’s something about the One Piece that’s outside of our “normal” expectations...

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Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:16 pm
I’m going to find the one piece, find the last island of raftel, and when I do.........

I’m going to throw the BIGGEST PARTY/BANQUET in the WORLD!!!

This is another idea I can completely get behind. You lay out a lot of good evidence for it, and our first interaction with Roger ends in a party as well. I could see the series ending with a big party as well, actually.


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Really interesting! Luffy def wants more than the (possible) treasure.
Being free is one big reason indeed.

The part with Gaimon, Luffy focuses on the alone part. It makes me think reaching Raftel has something to do with friends & family to him. Not that I have any idea of what and how..


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Ckimbrew wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:16 pm
I’m going to find the one piece, find the last island of raftel, and when I do.........

I’m going to throw the BIGGEST PARTY/BANQUET in the WORLD!!!
I mean this is going to happen, and it probably is the biggest party since it has to include all of the allies. Definitely accurate since I fully expect it to happen and probably be included in the epilogue portion of the plot.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:31 pm
Yes, it will be childish snd worthwhile because thats what likely Roger learnt there and he laughed at it. So whatever the childish dream it is will be complicated or impossible task.

We can assume from luffy perspective its likely going to be about throwing party to everyone after he achieves as Pirate king . Luffy is heavily inspired from Shanks crew and their lively vibrant crew who party and adventure.

Even those terms is more of far cry with WG because when luffy will learn joyboy's intention and his childhood drewm he will want to defeat world govt at all cost.
Ah, I'm biased to think we have two separate twists. I think the Laugh Tale twist is completely separate (but does at least overlap with the dream twist). Definitely agree that there are multiple layers to it in terms of the childish/shocking aspect and the implied impossibility of it.

Yup, so we agree on the party aspect. I'm starting to think the Laugh Tale twist might not even be that "big" in terms of Void History insight.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:57 pm
Yeah exactly. I think Oda’s twist and Luffy’s dream are two separate things, though. The Laugh Tale chapter suggests there’s something about the One Piece that’s outside of our “normal” expectations...
Perfect, thanks.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:09 pm
Luffy def wants more than the (possible) treasure.
Just FYI: super early on in the SBS Oda confirms there is a monetary value of "treasure" in addition to the information, twist(s), etc.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:09 pm
The part with Gaimon, Luffy focuses on the alone part. It makes me think reaching Raftel has something to do with friends & family to him. Not that I have any idea of what and how..
Yup. It definitely seems like it has to be tied to something/traits Luffy had from when he was a kid. But hopefully it stays this way that none of us are actually accurate on what the twist is.


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@seiryu I do remember that, I meant it is secondary to Luffy. Most likely they would take something. Nami is onboard after all. :pikajoy:


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storm chaser wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:30 am
I do remember that, I meant it is secondary to Luffy. Most likely they would take something. Nami is onboard after all.
Oh most definitely. Since the Mugiwara members help the countries they go to, they are like Whitebeard and living much more frugal than the accomplishments they achieve. We see that Roger's crew was small (relative to other crews) and rich so they could afford to not touch anything.


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Great analysis, love it! This is the best theory in the new forum so far in my opinion.


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Zagrash wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:43 am
Great analysis, love it! This is the best theory in the new forum so far in my opinion.

Wow, thank you!


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Something else I’ve just found that might be worth adding to this thread:

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It’s from one of the chapters towards the end of Dressrosa, but I can’t remember which.


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Here’s an interesting theory on this that I actually quite like



TL;DR - Luffy’s dream is to throw the biggest party in the world - this is connected together by all the banquet/party scenes from the series, both with the Straw Hats and with the Red Hair Pirates in Romance Dawn


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