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Theory Contest - Theme or no Theme?

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Okay, the first theory contest is in the voting phase - topic807

If anyone has feedback about how the contest is run, or has any ideas for the next theory theme, post them here!

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This is an old topic and the theory contest has pretty much been established from what I've seen but since it's a relatable subject for me, I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents regardless, for what they're worth.

I saw that the theory contest has become a bi-monthly event, a notion I very much agree with and was delighted to see Chaudy propose the idea. I think it's a good compromise between it being a monthly event or a seasonal one.

Though I do think that making it themed is limiting in more ways than it is beneficial. While it can make it easier to compare theories which talk about the same subject, similarities are bound to pop up. And while it can be either unconscious ( due to the order they read them in ) or conscious (due to knowing the writer of each theory), it can make specific theories look contrived in people's eyes. Plus I think the choice of topic could be a separate criteria for a theory's quality all by itself too.


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Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:12 pm
This is an old topic and the theory contest has pretty much been established from what I've seen but since it's a relatable subject for me, I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents regardless, for what they're worth.

I saw that the theory contest has become a bi-monthly event, a notion I very much agree with and was delighted to see Chaudy propose the idea. I think it's a good compromise between it being a monthly event or a seasonal one.

Though I do think that making it themed is limiting in more ways than it is beneficial. While it can make it easier to compare theories which talk about the same subject, similarities are bound to pop up. And while it can be either unconscious ( due to the order they read them in ) or conscious (due to knowing the writer of each theory), it can make specific theories look contrived in people's eyes. Plus I think the choice of topic could be a separate criteria for a theory's quality all by itself too.
Thanks for the feedback! Almost everything in life needs to be flexible, so I definitely think being open to updates is necessary. I do think the ability to have the voting side go through smoothly is a huge factor though.

I think especially when open ended topics become fewer and fewer, changes and possibly big changes will come about. But so far, the contest theories have been very different. Even this current contest has two entries focused on the same topic (Coby going after Boa), but they are completely different theories because of the directions they go about discussing/the essence of the theory.

Ah, the main thing is that theories on any topic are always welcome. The contest is to promote additional theories on to what people would normally be posting anyway. We are always open to suggested topics too, but the priority is stuff that is going to be addressed relatively soon since the number of open ended themes is limited and should only decrease over time. We are going to have to recycle topics eventually/have theories that overlap with previous theories. Minimizing this is the best option since it inevitably will happen.


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seiryu wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:58 am
Thanks for the feedback! Almost everything in life needs to be flexible, so I definitely think being open to updates is necessary. I do think the ability to have the voting side go through smoothly is a huge factor though.

I think especially when open ended topics become fewer and fewer, changes and possibly big changes will come about. But so far, the contest theories have been very different. Even this current contest has two entries focused on the same topic (Coby going after Boa), but they are completely different theories because of the directions they go about discussing/the essence of the theory.

Ah, the main thing is that theories on any topic are always welcome. The contest is to promote additional theories on to what people would normally be posting anyway. We are always open to suggested topics too, but the priority is stuff that is going to be addressed relatively soon since the number of open ended themes is limited and should only decrease over time. We are going to have to recycle topics eventually/have theories that overlap with previous theories. Minimizing this is the best option since it inevitably will happen.
You do indeed have a point, I can see the merit in doing things this way. And really glad to hear that the theories can stay original even while revolving around the topic. Kudos to the respective theorists, though since the topic is recent and I'm behind on the story, I can't quite go and read them right now and say so personally there so I'll have to make do with saying so here.

Personally I like the variety and since I know that good theories can benefit from time spend on them, I was hoping to avoid a congestion of theories about the same topic with several similarities at any given time. It's ironic to say this in a thread focusing on the theory contest, but theory contest aside, I hope the theorists here always feel welcome and encouraged to write about any topic about any time.


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You do indeed have a point, I can see the merit in doing things this way. And really glad to hear that the theories can stay original even while revolving around the topic. Kudos to the respective theorists, though since the topic is recent and I'm behind on the story, I can't quite go and read them right now and say so personally there so I'll have to make do with saying so here.

Personally I like the variety and since I know that good theories can benefit from time spend on them, I was hoping to avoid a congestion of theories about the same topic with several similarities at any given time. It's ironic to say this in a thread focusing on the theory contest, but theory contest aside, I hope the theorists here always feel welcome and encouraged to write about any topic about any time.
Yup, so logistically, I think we have to ride out the "easy" way for as long as possible. Probably once topics are starting to repeat, the open theory contests will probably become a necessity. However, Oda is getting better at creating short-term open ended scenarios (he absolutely sucked at this for a long time). And I guess I should clarify that this is for stuff not directly tied to stuff that is "end of series" related since these are always left open ended. So part of me is quite optimistic that Oda is learning and adapting to make more content for discussions. The recent astronomical jump in "anime only content" is the second half of the huge changes for me (this is only the most recent chapters).

Either way, our team is always open to feedback as a whole since we are built on having a tight-knit community. And if Oda can keep up with these new found skills, the manga and anime quality are going to stay at all time highs for potentially the rest of the series!

Not gonna tag, but hopefully you got to interact with Mrpremps. I'm least likely to partake in video-based theories, but compared to the few that I have seen, the quality of production immediately jumped out. Plus, he's got solid analysis and a unique twist/perspective too.

Other than peak OPF times, the theory section is probably the most active it has been.


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seiryu wrote:
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Yuuzume wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:36 am
You do indeed have a point, I can see the merit in doing things this way. And really glad to hear that the theories can stay original even while revolving around the topic. Kudos to the respective theorists, though since the topic is recent and I'm behind on the story, I can't quite go and read them right now and say so personally there so I'll have to make do with saying so here.

Personally I like the variety and since I know that good theories can benefit from time spend on them, I was hoping to avoid a congestion of theories about the same topic with several similarities at any given time. It's ironic to say this in a thread focusing on the theory contest, but theory contest aside, I hope the theorists here always feel welcome and encouraged to write about any topic about any time.
Yup, so logistically, I think we have to ride out the "easy" way for as long as possible. Probably once topics are starting to repeat, the open theory contests will probably become a necessity. However, Oda is getting better at creating short-term open ended scenarios (he absolutely sucked at this for a long time). And I guess I should clarify that this is for stuff not directly tied to stuff that is "end of series" related since these are always left open ended. So part of me is quite optimistic that Oda is learning and adapting to make more content for discussions. The recent astronomical jump in "anime only content" is the second half of the huge changes for me (this is only the most recent chapters).

Either way, our team is always open to feedback as a whole since we are built on having a tight-knit community. And if Oda can keep up with these new found skills, the manga and anime quality are going to stay at all time highs for potentially the rest of the series!

Not gonna tag, but hopefully you got to interact with Mrpremps. I'm least likely to partake in video-based theories, but compared to the few that I have seen, the quality of production immediately jumped out. Plus, he's got solid analysis and a unique twist/perspective too.

Other than peak OPF times, the theory section is probably the most active it has been.
Unfortunately I'm still reading through the Wano arc so I haven't been able to check it out myself but I'm quite glad to hear that the respective theorists have been writing in such a way that highlight the benefits of a themed contest while avoiding stepping on the its detrimental points. I do assume said theories will make for quite a nice read once I have completely caught up.

It's also great to hear and see several new namaes revolving aroung the theory department of the forum. I haven't had a chance to see Mrpremps yes but I've happened to see Rej, and especially a person named Nessos. The theory I actually sneaked a peek at was Nessos' and I very much enjoyed it and his writing style was one I believe I am fond of. I did spoil myself a tiny bit since it included a tad of recent content but it was worth it. Amidst theories from people I'm more familiar with since the OPF days, Nessos' theories are the ones I'm currectly keeping an eye for the most from among all the emerging theorists in the forum, to read when I can do so.


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Yuuzume wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:36 am
Unfortunately I'm still reading through the Wano arc so I haven't been able to check it out myself but I'm quite glad to hear that the respective theorists have been writing in such a way that highlight the benefits of a themed contest while avoiding stepping on the its detrimental points. I do assume said theories will make for quite a nice read once I have completely caught up.
You are in for a treat! We've had some GREAT theories. And this is by my lofty standards. It is primarily the people you've referenced, but I'm kinda sad that they aren't getting the replies and discussions relative to how much connection we get of the breadcrumbs. But even then, the people that have contributed theories upon inspiration still stick out too. I can't think of any theory that felt disappointing.
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It's also great to hear and see several new namaes revolving aroung the theory department of the forum. I haven't had a chance to see Mrpremps yes but I've happened to see Rej, and especially a person named Nessos. The theory I actually sneaked a peek at was Nessos' and I very much enjoyed it and his writing style was one I believe I am fond of. I did spoil myself a tiny bit since it included a tad of recent content but it was worth it. Amidst theories from people I'm more familiar with since the OPF days, Nessos' theories are the ones I'm currectly keeping an eye for the most from among all the emerging theorists in the forum, to read when I can do so.
Yup! New blood always helps create a new atmosphere, so hopefully we can get more theories going and more discussions of them too! I forget which forum, but Nessos was always big on theories based on the introductions given over the span of all the theories. We're lucky since it's been nothing but solid theories the entire time.

Some of the other admin have had more interactions with Mrpremps, but he sounds like a great guy from what was brought up in deciding on the shared promotion partnership. I don't watch full videos, but the parts I caught were solid too.


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You are in for a treat! We've had some GREAT theories. And this is by my lofty standards. It is primarily the people you've referenced, but I'm kinda sad that they aren't getting the replies and discussions relative to how much connection we get of the breadcrumbs. But even then, the people that have contributed theories upon inspiration still stick out too. I can't think of any theory that felt disappointing.
I actually just caught up to chapter 996 yesterday before going to sleep, positively enough. Hence, now I can be more actively involved in the theory department. I do look forward to reading through theories from the aforementioned people in the previous post but partly due to my bias of him and partly due to another fact which I'm going to mention shortly, I actually looking forward to reading about Jawa's "Re" theory on how Devil Fruits work. I caused him to have a headache in the comment section of that theory back on OPF but the story has progressed a lot since then, and coupled with the fact that he managed to convince me of several things ( after an arduous debate ), I think I'll see the theory in such a new light that it'll feel like I never even read the first OPF version of it. The logic behind it and facts involved are also quite relevant in the theory I'm currently working on so while I'll wait to read it after I'm donw with my theory, it might have an impact even if it's afterwards.

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Yup! New blood always helps create a new atmosphere, so hopefully we can get more theories going and more discussions of them too! I forget which forum, but Nessos was always big on theories based on the introductions given over the span of all the theories. We're lucky since it's been nothing but solid theories the entire time.

Some of the other admin have had more interactions with Mrpremps, but he sounds like a great guy from what was brought up in deciding on the shared promotion partnership. I don't watch full videos, but the parts I caught were solid too.
I'm definitely looking foward to reading theories from all the new members, for the new perspective if for nothing else, but the content seems to be top notch as well so it's something to look forward to even more. For better or worse though, I think I'll hold off on doing that until I'm done with the theory I'm currently working on.

Oh, I actually wasn't even aware that we had an affiliate until you brought up the partnership just now, leading to me looking it up. This is a very nice turn of events, based on the little content I managed to see, I can't help but agree with your opinion of it being solid. I'd also like to add that it also has it's out-of-the-box-thinking qualities while keeping a firm grip on logic. It means I have one more thing to look forward to.


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HI HELLO

I stopped doing this at the end of 2020 because we didn’t get enough entries. However, I am fine with starting it up again and making it a seasonal thing (3 months vs 2) so people have more time for entries. That is, if people will participate...


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Marco Polo wrote:
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HI HELLO

I stopped doing this at the end of 2020 because we didn’t get enough entries. However, I am fine with starting it up again and making it a seasonal thing (3 months vs 2) so people have more time for entries. That is, if people will participate...
I actually do have one thing I'd like to talk about in regards to how this works in a specific aspect, mainly cause I haven't really participated in a theory contest yet in VCC. If it's not implemented, just treat it as a light suggestion and if it already is, it's just something that would be good to know the answer to.

From my experience, theories will be posted when the theorist thinks it's "ripe" (has enough info and is fairly sure of the theory) and it's usually done right after a new piece if info that, in a way, completes the theory comes to light. So, there is the possibility of having already written a theory about the theme a contest will be about before the actual contest. Can a theory written before then ( but one that hasn't been submitted as a theory contest theory ) be submitted as the participant's entry for that contest or does there need to be a new one after the theme has been introduced?


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