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The renmant talk between Big Mom and Marco :catpole:

Big Mom reaction was like she realized for the first time she doesn't have to follow Xebec anymore :psyduck:


It could also end up becoming a hint for another renmant of Rox Pirates appearing soon :dancingblob:


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I'll probably come back and read comments, but I have to say this might be the MOST disappointing official translation (I don't read them often, so I'm almost scared to see what happens all the time).

It's very hard to mess up translations for action scenes...but even some of Kaidou's comments per the raw imply a pretty different context. I'm blanking on what the official translation had for Oden's comments near the end, but it seems quite different (Toki's part is conveying an accurate message).

Similarly, they are "making stuff up" in the sense that the random Waiter/Kaidou underling makes no comment other than Kaidou is getting cut. Sure this is more "boring" of a comment, but adding details changes Oda's message. Oda uses vague words on purpose because word choice changes context. I can see both sides in the sense that the goal is to probably sell more subscriptions. However, creating false hope is going to create an unnecessary crash of disappointment. All signs are indicating Kaidou isn't fighting all that seriously (they mistranslate his comment after taking the Blow Breath belittles the attacks of the Scabbards. Even the ending panel shows a huge difference between the damage Oden does alone vs. 4 Scabbards combined...

Oda is purposefully maximizing what little optimism is present, but he is putting it in the correct scale/extent. Oda doesn't want negative emotions, so he isn't showing or having anyone say anything about significant damage. It is the opposite: Kaidou has little damage and immediately recovers (same will probably be for this combined attack because none of the Scabbards listened to Oden when he wanted to teach them the details of Ryuuou => this is probably the biggest breadcrumb per this context in that they are only a shadow/copy of Oden's style). All the breadcrumbs are there and this official translation is choosing to deviate from it. Poor choice on their end if they think hyping up the undercard/warm-up action is going to sell more. They are directly contradicting Oda and what he is trying to convey.

And this doesn't even include the page of Marco, Big Mom, and Perosperos' conversation. I'll be more than happy to translate the entire thing (the biggest part is the bottom half of the last page).

I can already see a big problem coming in the future, so I'm going to do my job to explain why it isn't what the official translation says it is.


Back to the blind Oda faith (until the next B.S. of course).
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Great action! I want more of this, then taking some big L’s and Luffy saving the day — then I’ll be happy


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Ok this was a really interesting chapter. Definitely worth the wait!

The Marco/Big Mom conversation is short but it really says a lot about the differences in leadership style between Big Mom and Whitebeard. In both cases, their crew is their "family" - for Big Mom it's very literal (the "core" of her crew is her kids), but for Whitebeard it's more to do with the bond all of the crew share from being outcasts who happened to find each other (kind of like how the Straw Hats are a "family"). However, the way they lead their family is/was completely different. Big Mom expects her kids to carry out her orders because they should listen to Mama, but this chapter implies that she expects them to both stay together and execute her will should something ever happen to her. We've seen what happens when a child disobeys her and leaves the crew with Lola - not only does she ostracise them completely, she's prepared to kill her for disobeying her if the two cross paths again. Whitebeard, however, acknowledged and accepted the individual desires of each of his sons and daughters. That's why Oden was allowed to join Roger, why former crew members like Whitey Bay were allowed to leave and start their own crews, and crucially it's the reason he took responsibility for the Ace situation at Marineford. For Big Mom, her crew is a group of people she believes she's entitled to command and be respected by, but for Whitebeard, his crew are a group of individuals who come to him out of respect. The way they lead can be summed up by the idea of "I trust you to come through for me, but you'll be punished if you don't", versus "I trust you to come through for me, but I'll be there for you if something happens". Very very interesting insight into how each character views positions of authority.

Carrot is about to fight Perospero - I think if she does it and wins, her "next Straw Hat" odds skyrocket. If she is the one to inherit Pedro's will, then I definitely think she becomes a tagalong for Laugh Tale. Interestingly, I think Wanda could be thrown into that conversation if she helps Carrot with that fight. Would be a very interesting parallel to Cat & Dog joining Roger.

Also, how good is this Scabbards vs. Kaido fight? The panelling is fantastic, and the way each of the Scabbards' distinctive fighting styles synergise with each other really shows how much time they've spent fighting and training together. Really reminds me of the Straw Hats fighting Oars on Thriller Bark.

And going back to what I was saying about leadership - we see a really big learning moment for Oden as for what it means to be a leader when the Scabbards don't want to learn his fighting style. Despite him having their best interests at heart, he's also understanding enough not to force them to do anything. He's there if they need him, but he's not going to force anything because he respects their individuality. Also, the panel where Toki says "they love you so much, they would have killed each other" (to be his no.1 disciple) carries so much more weight now we're seeing them literally ready to die to carry out his wishes. Cutting Kaido with the very same technique that Oden used all those years ago is incredibly powerful as well. It's incredible how well Oda's sold this fight to us, especially when he knows we all expect them to lose, and that we're waiting for Luffy to come save the day.

WeebyWitch wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:05 pm
Hype!! I wonder if Big Mom is going to defend her son considering she thinks he was borderline insubordinate just now.

My feeling is that she'll let it slide because he's come around to her way of thinking. She's got a history of letting things slide because she's already gotten what she wants.

Deathbloke wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:15 pm
>So that's why Marco and Perospero teamed up, makes sense. But are Big Mom and Perospero going to leave him be?

My instinct is that they won't leave him be. I think Marco could end up having to do a lot of the heavy lifting in terms of dealing with Big Mom.

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Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:15 pm
>What worries me is that Luffy is going to find a half-done Kaido to defeat, although all this Kabuki and five acts thing gives a lot of room for discussion. We'll see, I guess.

Ok this actually raises some really interesting ideas (I might make a thread about this later), but Kaido hasn't really gotten started in this fight yet, and once he does I think things will look VERY difficult for Luffy.

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Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:32 pm
on the next episode of "how to fuck up some epic double pages brought to you by VIZ media"

I need those Scabbard pages as proper double spreads

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Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:59 pm
I wouldn't go that far...Marco couldn't beat Blackbeard, who may still not have mastered his Yami Yami and Gura Gura powers. Perospero just wanted to screw things up for Kaidou (since he doesn't accept the alliance). It's only Perospero that talks about Pirate King and Marco shouldn't share any of these views.

I think he also wanted to do it for his mother's sake as well? He says it's both his and the kids' dream for her to become PK. Marco likely agrees to it because he's here to take down Kaido, and whatever benefit Big Mom gains from it is something he'll deal with further down the line. Though that alliance is broken now, because Perospero and Big Mom are fighting alongside Kaido.

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Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:59 pm
I really hope so too, but Big Mom has to walk away/be separated from Perospero.

Maybe we see Marco vs. Big Mom?

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Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:59 pm
Woah, I am suddenly intrigued by Marco…he’s got something bigger planned and the raw on Oda’s word choice for “remnants” is going to be key. So since there is still some sort of “plan” despite losing to Blackbeard, does this mean they are free to all just be independent? Will the majority of them ally with Luffy when the war against the Government goes down? Is this something more short term? Oda created a whole bunch of questions with just a few panels.

I think this raises a really interesting point about what the other remnants do. There was a theory a long time ago that did the rounds that suggested Vista would end up joining with Blackbeard - we could see that come to fruition now we know that all of the ex-WB commanders have their own agency.

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Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:59 pm
I’m hoping the anime does a better job since Oda is not showing much haki usage other than the ending. If Kaidou is getting cut without any haki usage, that would definitely be the most depressing.

I think they're all using Ryuo? But then I'm looking back at Luffy using it in Chapter 955 and his fist is coloured in.


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I have to add, I'm loving Yamato's colours!!
me too. They were thought provoking enough that I ended up writing a theory such as it is lol.


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WeebyWitch wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:22 pm
It’s dragon related. As far as I know, some eastern dragons can control the weather. I already mentioned this in an earlier conversation because I love dragons and have researched all sorts of them. I couldn’t pinpoint exactly which nationality/type does what off the top of my head but we’ve had the discussion about him having weather/water abilities potentially when he was first revealed to be a dragon as it relates to his immortality potentially.
In terms of Kaidou, this was not with me. From discussions back at OPF, the Chinese influence of dragons being able to fly because of their ability to walk on clouds is the visualization of how Momo flies. For both Kaidou and Momo, we don't know anything pretty much. I wouldn't go straight to dragon related because it could be anger related. We have Kaidou and Big Mom being able to do "weather abilities".

Kaidou has roared in his dragon form, so there is some other aspect to it. I guess I'm biased to not want everyone having a weather ability because this potentially takes away any uniqueness to how Dragon saved Luffy. Plus, it seems like a cheap/generic way to give other people multiple fruit abilities. I like it with Big Mom's use of Prometheus, Zeus, and to a certain extent Napoleon, but if Big Mom, Kaidou, and Dragon all have weather abilities just because they are strong...that seems too much overlap for Oda's style. Even if it is only Kaidou and Big Mom, it now detracts from Dragon's presumed fruit ability.
Monkey D. Bufford wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:36 pm
I friggin knew that Kaidou was one of Vegapunk's lab rats!!
What part of this chapter confirms this?
MagicalMelancholy wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:08 pm
background music.
Hopefully the composition can match how interesting her character is being built up/implied to be (based on the little panels we get of her).
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Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:59 pm
Is he implying that he has something planned for the Wano war?
It is something after based on the raw.
Nessos wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:46 pm
The renmant talk between Big Mom and Marco

Big Mom reaction was like she realized for the first time she doesn't have to follow Xebec anymore
I can confirm that the official translation does a terrible job in the sense that it is implying a completely different direction from what the raw states/is literally. MangaStream did this only to the extent of taking the "raw's message" and "Americanizing" it (I don't know how else to describe it). The raw message was still extremely accurate however.

Oda makes it very easy: just translate things word for word. He doesn't want people to use the incorrect words, so I think someone is not conveying the proper job description to the official translator.
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Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:46 pm
It could also end up becoming a hint for another renmant of Rox Pirates appearing soon
This hopefully comes up. The seemingly universally understandable aspect is that how remnants go about their pirate lives is completely different with Xebec's crew and Whitebeard's crew.
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Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:38 pm
Great action! I want more of this, then taking some big L’s and Luffy saving the day — then I’ll be happy
You and I are in for a bit of (hopefully) minor delays. Oda is creating a mini-climax for his chapter 1000 twist. It is possible that the tragedy is chapter 1000. I personally wouldn't mind the twist being purely "negative" with Luffy and the alliance having the real tragedy occurs. This is and should be the biggest "wake up call" (even more so than Ace) since Luffy still thinks he is in the same ballpark as the Yonkou and admirals...when he isn't even close. It is a negative commemoration, but it is extremely significant.
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:09 am
The Marco/Big Mom conversation is short but it really says a lot about the differences in leadership style between Big Mom and Whitebeard. In both cases, their crew is their "family" - for Big Mom it's very literal (the "core" of her crew is her kids), but for Whitebeard it's more to do with the bond all of the crew share from being outcasts who happened to find each other (kind of like how the Straw Hats are a "family"). However, the way they lead their family is/was completely different. Big Mom expects her kids to carry out her orders because they should listen to Mama, but this chapter implies that she expects them to both stay together and execute her will should something ever happen to her. We've seen what happens when a child disobeys her and leaves the crew with Lola - not only does she ostracise them completely, she's prepared to kill her for disobeying her if the two cross paths again. Whitebeard, however, acknowledged and accepted the individual desires of each of his sons and daughters. That's why Oden was allowed to join Roger, why former crew members like Whitey Bay were allowed to leave and start their own crews, and crucially it's the reason he took responsibility for the Ace situation at Marineford. For Big Mom, her crew is a group of people she believes she's entitled to command and be respected by, but for Whitebeard, his crew are a group of individuals who come to him out of respect. The way they lead can be summed up by the idea of "I trust you to come through for me, but you'll be punished if you don't", versus "I trust you to come through for me, but I'll be there for you if something happens". Very very interesting insight into how each character views positions of authority.
Yup! The big picture parts are nailed completely here. Some of the intricacies of what and how it ends up happening gets thrown off by the inaccurate translations, but connecting the breadcrumbs is going to be universal.
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:09 am
Carrot is about to fight Perospero - I think if she does it and wins, her "next Straw Hat" odds skyrocket. If she is the one to inherit Pedro's will, then I definitely think she becomes a tagalong for Laugh Tale. Interestingly, I think Wanda could be thrown into that conversation if she helps Carrot with that fight. Would be a very interesting parallel to Cat & Dog joining Roger.
Pretty big if (on Carrot). Pedro had better control of Suu Long/was implied to be quite a bit stronger than Carrot. Yes, he never got to use Suu Long, but his best desperation move was still a "minor" (relative since anyone without a fruit ability to substitute the limb has a "moderate" injury => kinda like Inuarashi and Nekomamushi only have a minor decrease to their combat capabilities despite the severe real life disability. Ah and a "minor" injury is zero decrease to combat capabilities just like Aokiji is 100% as long as he isn't in water to create a lower leg out of ice just like Perospero has an arm of candy).

For me, I see the overall pattern of people "too young" and "too naive" wanting to join in on an adventure they are not ready for. Luffy and all of the Mugiwara (except Jinbei who is cognitively aware of the reality of the dreams) also are in this category. The literary perfection makes it seem like it should be possible and this is a big part of Oda writing himself into a corner of having to overcome the strongest Yonkou first.
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:09 am
Also, how good is this Scabbards vs. Kaido fight? The panelling is fantastic, and the way each of the Scabbards' distinctive fighting styles synergise with each other really shows how much time they've spent fighting and training together. Really reminds me of the Straw Hats fighting Oars on Thriller Bark.
Ah, yes, it is the exact same teamwork mechanics! Thriller Bark is rusty for me, but the Scabbards appear to be setting up the next attack better. For example, Kawamatsu is already in the air when Nekomamushi does his named uppercut based attack. I remember Sanji was still moving into position for his part of the combo attack, so the Scabbard "teamwork" is at a higher level than the Mugiwara crew (but they have an entire life time of being together so Oda is making things correct even in these minuscule details).
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:09 am
And going back to what I was saying about leadership - we see a really big learning moment for Oden as for what it means to be a leader when the Scabbards don't want to learn his fighting style. Despite him having their best interests at heart, he's also understanding enough not to force them to do anything. He's there if they need him, but he's not going to force anything because he respects their individuality. Also, the panel where Toki says "they love you so much, they would have killed each other" (to be his no.1 disciple) carries so much more weight now we're seeing them literally ready to die to carry out his wishes. Cutting Kaido with the very same technique that Oden used all those years ago is incredibly powerful as well. It's incredible how well Oda's sold this fight to us, especially when he knows we all expect them to lose, and that we're waiting for Luffy to come save the day.
YES! All the breadcrumbs line up perfectly and it is only a matter of taking the time to look for them and connect them. Appreciation and enjoyment of the series astronomically increases when doing the hard work. Oda goes through astronomically more work to plan it out and more importantly execute it week to week. Not at least looking for the breadcrumbs is directly disrespectful to Oda (although the disrespect is unconscious and unknown). The whole psychological concept of having to accept/be consciously aware of a mistake comes to mind. It's probably the hardest, but it is the most important step.
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:09 am
My feeling is that she'll let it slide because he's come around to her way of thinking. She's got a history of letting things slide because she's already gotten what she wants.
Yup, it is only foreshadowing the negative "remnants" of the crew breaking up rather than sticking together unofficially like the Whitebeard crew. This is even more significant because the Whitebeard crew is still doing this despite getting a beatdown by the two worst/most rub salt on the wound enemies (Blackbeard, who killed Whitebeard, and the illegitimate son, who is claiming to be their family).
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:09 am
I think he also wanted to do it for his mother's sake as well? He says it's both his and the kids' dream for her to become PK. Marco likely agrees to it because he's here to take down Kaido, and whatever benefit Big Mom gains from it is something he'll deal with further down the line. Though that alliance is broken now, because Perospero and Big Mom are fighting alongside Kaido.
Yup. What version did you read? Reading is not illegal (only the downloading of the page is illegal). Talking about it should not be an issue unless a website is posted after 2021 too. Your comments make it seem like something other than the official was read, and that's probably a good thing based on the translation I read. Either that, or you completely overlooked the short term aspects from the incorrect translation and still picked up the big picture message (which is still accurate since the translator is adding things in for short term excitement at the cost of contradicting Oda's desired message).
Marco Polo wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:09 am
Maybe we see Marco vs. Big Mom?
Big Mom has mastered her fruit ability, and she is the only one with two logia and two "paramecia" like abilities (all in one person). If Marco couldn't take down Blackbeard early into his fruit training, he cannot win against Big Mom and it would be a similar easy win for Big Mom (the news implied it was a one-sided "war").
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:09 am
I think this raises a really interesting point about what the other remnants do. There was a theory a long time ago that did the rounds that suggested Vista would end up joining with Blackbeard - we could see that come to fruition now we know that all of the ex-WB commanders have their own agency.
I have something in mind, but it is the "real ending" of One Piece that Oda doesn't want directly referenced...so I'm holding my tongue. Essentially, they are all free to do as they please. They are all independent and will not interact with most of the others. When the time comes, and their morals/mindset tells them to take action, then they will all do so in unison despite potentially never talking to each other. I think I kept this vague enough for Oda's standards.
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:09 am
I think they're all using Ryuo? But then I'm looking back at Luffy using it in Chapter 955 and his fist is coloured in.
The most recent anime episode further complicates because we have colorations added specific to the person (Queen has orange effects added because he is orange, and there is purple for Big Mom). Context implies some haki is used because they are all too weak to do damage to Kaidou without it. We are not seeing level 2 haki until the final attack though. That is 100% shown (at least the busoushoku aspect is 100%). Context implies most samurai know level 2 haki for swords though, which is why they ignored Oden wanting to teach them "advanced" techniques.
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Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:28 pm
I have to add, I'm loving Yamato's colours!!
me too. They were thought provoking enough that I ended up writing a theory such as it is lol.
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:53 am
You and I are in for a bit of (hopefully) minor delays. Oda is creating a mini-climax for his chapter 1000 twist. It is possible that the tragedy is chapter 1000. I personally wouldn't mind the twist being purely "negative" with Luffy and the alliance having the real tragedy occurs. This is and should be the biggest "wake up call" (even more so than Ace) since Luffy still thinks he is in the same ballpark as the Yonkou and admirals...when he isn't even close. It is a negative commemoration, but it is extremely significant.
Man, with all my heart I hope this will be the case. One Piece is due for some good drama, and the way the fight has been going (extremely well in favor of our protagonists), we can feel it coming. It was all those moments (burning Merry, Sabaody defeat, Ace) that really impacted me as a reader/watcher and made the series interesting.


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Looking forward to it!
it was posted before already before that post was submitted but thanks.


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Pretty big if (on Carrot). Pedro had better control of Suu Long/was implied to be quite a bit stronger than Carrot. Yes, he never got to use Suu Long, but his best desperation move was still a "minor" (relative since anyone without a fruit ability to substitute the limb has a "moderate" injury => kinda like Inuarashi and Nekomamushi only have a minor decrease to their combat capabilities despite the severe real life disability. Ah and a "minor" injury is zero decrease to combat capabilities just like Aokiji is 100% as long as he isn't in water to create a lower leg out of ice just like Perospero has an arm of candy).

It is a very huge if, but then I think if the Straw Hats are really going to cement their credentials as the Pirate King's crew, every member is going to have to come out of Wano with a big scalp under their belt, not just the "Big 4". Especially in such a small crew, they're going to need firepower. Franky and Brook have started to step up, and Robin looks like she's going to be a very handy (hah) support fighter. Carrot taking out Perospero, even with the help of Wanda (or potentially Marco) would be the biggest "come and get me" possible. That being said:

seiryu wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:53 am
For me, I see the overall pattern of people "too young" and "too naive" wanting to join in on an adventure they are not ready for. Luffy and all of the Mugiwara (except Jinbei who is cognitively aware of the reality of the dreams) also are in this category. The literary perfection makes it seem like it should be possible and this is a big part of Oda writing himself into a corner of having to overcome the strongest Yonkou first.

As the series has progressed, the additions to the crew have generally been increasingly mature and/or experienced. Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji and Chopper were all additions roughly the same age as Luffy with obvious potential but generally lacking in experience (Zoro's name was known by a few in the East Blue but he didn't have a bounty so I doubt he was anyone of real significance), whereas Robin, Franky and Brook were all significantly more experienced at their time of joining. Franky was a former Mafia boss, Brook was a former captain of a Grand Line crew, and Robin was one of the Government's most wanted and had spent a lot of time in a pretty wide range of groups.

Even though most (maybe even all) of the first nine Straw Hats fall under the "high potential youngster" category, the timeskip has given those guys chance to grow and become useful parts of a genuinely elite pirate crew (they might not be Yonko level yet, but the Straw Hats are undeniably in the tier just below). That means that any addition to that "core" in the New World has to be capable of pulling their weight within a very solid crew, and has to have qualities so undeniable that you can't NOT want them to join. Jinbe fits that criteria perfectly - he's a huge name with not only fighting strength, but incredible skill as a helmsman. He was basically the best "free agent" anyone could get, and Luffy got him. Any addition after Jinbe will be a step down purely in terms of name (unless Marco the Phoenix becomes a Straw Hat), so any addition from now on almost needs to prove themselves to the readers, especially if they fall in the "young and naive" category. The best way for Oda to do that is to have them pull through in a big fight. Carrot vs. Perospero would be a defining moment for Carrot's character, not only because of the levels of skill she'd have to display in combat, but because of the resolve she'd have to find to win that fight. At the moment, she's just on this adventure because a) it's fun, and b) she's a member of an alliance initiated by her superiors. We're getting hints of genuine motivation (avenging Pedro), it's whether those little hints turn into a definitive "dream". We're potentially seeing her backstory unfold in real time, rather than having it shown to us in flashback.

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Thriller Bark is rusty for me, but the Scabbards appear to be setting up the next attack better. For example, Kawamatsu is already in the air when Nekomamushi does his named uppercut based attack. I remember Sanji was still moving into position for his part of the combo attack, so the Scabbard "teamwork" is at a higher level than the Mugiwara crew (but they have an entire life time of being together so Oda is making things correct even in these minuscule details).

Yes yes - even with the 20-year "gap" that separated them, they grew up together so they likely remember each other's styles as well as they remember they own. It's similar to the brief moments Luffy and Ace fought together in Marineford - there's a really unique synergy that comes from growing up together.

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Yup. What version did you read? Reading is not illegal (only the downloading of the page is illegal). Talking about it should not be an issue unless a website is posted after 2021 too. Your comments make it seem like something other than the official was read, and that's probably a good thing based on the translation I read.

I read the version that Bloke linked in the OP.

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Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:53 am
Big Mom has mastered her fruit ability, and she is the only one with two logia and two "paramecia" like abilities (all in one person). If Marco couldn't take down Blackbeard early into his fruit training, he cannot win against Big Mom and it would be a similar easy win for Big Mom (the news implied it was a one-sided "war").

Yeah I don't think he wins, but he definitely doesn't go down without a fight. I think Blackbeard's DF abilities combined with the psychological advantage he probably had over the WB remnants (he's quite literally responsible for the death of three of their former crewmates, one of whom was their captain, and he's running around using their former captain's DF) make him as dangerous as Big Mom, if not slightly more so. I'm hoping we find out more about the Marco vs. BB fight from the man himself, considering he's here on Wano.


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