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Part I: The Pattern

Introduction
The Marine Admirals have aliases which are a combination of a color and an animal of the Chinese Zodiacs. So far there were Blue Pheasant, Yellow Monkey, Red Dog, Wisteria Tiger and Green Bull. In part I of this theory I wanna try to predict the aliases of future Admirals in part II I will suggest characters which may become Admiral later in the storyline.

Admiral Orange
The story told us there used to be always 3 Marine Admirals in OPverse. These 3 Admirals represent the strongest force of the Marines. Before the timeskip the 3 Admirals were Kuzan aka Blue Pheasant, Borsalino aka Yellow Monkey and Sakazuki aka Red Dog. During the timeskip Sakazuki was promoted and became the new Fleet Admiral and Kuzan retreated and became an ally of the Yonkou Blackbeared. The 2 empty slots were filled by Issho aka Wisteria Tiger and a man known as Green Bull.
Wisteria actually stands for purple
In SBS 73 a user asked why Issho alias is Wisteria Tiger and not Purple Tiger. The answer was that Oda didn't like the spelling of Purple Tiger.


Like many others I expect that Borsalino will be replaced by Admiral Orange ??? with ??? end up being one of the remaining seven Animals of the Chinese Zodiac The reason is, all members of the pre TS Admiral trio actually have a primary color (of classic art) in their aliases and the 2 new Admirals have secondary colors in their aliases. So the last of the former primary color trio have to be replaced by someone also having a secondary color in his alias. And by looking a Chinese Zodiac
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one will see that the 3 animals of the pre TS trio stick together and that the same can be said about the animals of the 2 new Admirals. So the alias of the next Admiral should be either Orange Rat or Orange Rabbit.

The 3 Admiral trios
Now we are coming to 2 characters who are not Admirals, but following the Color-Zodiac pattern, Gion aka Pink Rabbit and Tokikake aka Brown Pig. Both of them are famous Vice Admirals who were part of the World Military Draft to fill the 2 empty Admiral slots. And I also wanna add the former Fleet Admiral Sengoku, because he was not only introduce with a goat but also appears from time with his goat he represents the goat for me.
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And if we remove the Goat, the Pig and the Rabbit from Chinese Zodiacs we get 3 trios.
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  1. Yellow Monkey, Blue Pheasant(Rooster), Red Dog
  2. Orange Rat, Green Bull(Ox), Wisteria Tiger
  3. ??? Dragon, ??? Cobra(Snake)*, ??? Horse
*to follow the pattern of Pheasant and Bull, explicit Cobra explanation will follow in part II

The third Admiral trio
Its quite obvious that after secondary colors the tetriary colors have to come, but there are 6 and not only 3 tetriary colors. The colors are amber, vermilion, magenta, violet, teal and charteuse. But if we wanna keep it symmetric there are actually to combinations possible
amber, magenta and teal
vermilion, violet and chartreuse
I think we can take out the first 3 tetriary colors by looking at the 3 Zodiacs we took out. By looking at Sengokus Buddha form it is quite clear Sengokus color is gold which is super close to amber. Then we have Gion aka Pink Rabbit with pink being close to magenta. And finally there is Tokikake aka brown pig and all duckfans will directly think about the New Zealand Brown Teal, I agree the last one is abit force but excluding 2 colors from the first list is in my opinion enough to go with the second list.
Now is the how do we connect color and animal and out of the 6 possibilities I think there is one that make the most sense. If you look again at the Chinese Zodiac you will see orange follows of yellow, green of blue and purple of red it should continue with
  • Yellow -> Orange -> Vermilion
  • Blue -> Green -> Chartreuse
  • Red -> Purple -> Violet
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Thats why I think the third trio is actually Vermilion Dragon(Shirioryu), Chartreuse Cobra(Kusakobura*) and Violet Horse(Aiuma**). And I think that this will be the Admiral trio which will be introduced at the End of the Story by Oda showing us what kind of impact Luffy finding the One Piece having on the OPverse.
*Kuskobura literally means Grass Cobra, thats because the translation of chatreuse green is Wakakusairo(lit young grass color)
**These is actually no different between violet and purple in japanese so I decided to go with indigo which is actually blue-violet.


Conclusion part I
By combinig the classical RYB color system with the Chinese Zodiac I manage to determine 3 Admiral trios standing for 3 different parts of the One Piece story line
Pre TS: Yellow Monkey, Blue Pheasant and Red Dog
Post TS: Orange Rat, Green Bull and Wisteria Tiger
EoS: Vermilion Dragon, Chartreuse Cobra and Violet Horse
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Part II: My Predictions

Introduction
After deteremining the aliases of future Marine Admirals in part I, I am going to continue by filling the empty slots with characters who already appeared in the story. I will start with Orange Rat the only one that is missing from the post TS trio. Afterwards I will continue with the EoS trio starting with Chartreuse Cobra.

Admiral Orange Rat
For me there 3 very important things for an One Piece character to be able to become an Admiral under Sakazuki
  • one of the strongest characters in OPverse
  • following the absolute justice
  • be connected to the role of a famous japanese actor
And indeed there is a character who not only fulfills all three points I mentioned, but also is the perfect choice for the alias Orange Rat. The character I am talking about is Vice Admiral John Giant.

Marineford performence
When hearing the name John Giant many think about him as the one ended up as hypetool to Whitebeard during Marineford War, but especially with new Wano content his loss isn't as bad as many think. The attack with which Whitebeard took down John Giant was an attack that need the combined CoA of all three pre TS Admirals.
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Also comparing John Giant perfermance with the performance of Vice Admiral Ronse
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Ronse weapon shatter John Giants sword didn't get a scratch. This put John Giant clearly above Ronse and it tool Vista above Ronse. Not to mention it actually took Vista and another one to stop an attack of Ronse.
On top of that there is no other member of the Marine who has more badges then him, which in my opinion speaks for him and hype his power. And he was the one commanding the Enis Lobby Buster Call, which is for me a sign that puts him above the likes of Momonga, Onigumo, Doberman, Strawberry and Yamakaji.

Strong supporter of the Absolute Justice
John Giant was actually introduced back in East Blue Saga holding a speech about Absolute Justice.
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So one can say he is not only an ordinary supporter of the Absolute Justice he is an someone who is inspiring others to follow the Absolute Justice. Its actually not the only time we saw John Giant inspiring the troops. It wasn't Sengoku nor one of the 3 Admirals holding a speech right before Marineford War started it was John Giant.
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The actor behind John Giant
Not only the 4 known Admirals but also Tokikake and Gion are based on as pecific role of a famous japanese actor. Thats why we have to assume that all Admirals have to be based on a role of a japanese actor. And in the case of John Giant it have to be Chikari Hashimoto in his role as the Daimajin. The Daimajin is not only a swordfighting Giant they also share one obvious detail... a chin that looks like a pair of balls...
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Orange Rat
Now coming to the alias. That orange fit is quite obvious John Giant always wears an orange shirt. But some migh ask why Rat? No it is not Rat the smallest and John Giant the tallest. Actually the Rat is the first animal of the Chinese Zodiac and John Giant was the first Giant Marine and will most likely become the first Giant Marine Admiral.
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The EoS Trio
Chartreuse Cobra

So lets finally start with Admiral Chartreuse Cobra. The character I suggest for this spot is a character that we have to see as Admiral at the End of the Story otherwise it be for as dissapointing as Luffy failing to find One Piece. I expect you already know about which character I am going to talk, Rear Admiral Coby. Actually I just recently notice that he wears a conteuse green bandana and a teal scarf which are actually the 2 green tetriary colors.
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And with Coby becoming snake its very reasonable to change snake to cobra. The chinese cobra is also known as spectral snake, because the marks on the back of the snakes hood resemble eyeglasses(in Germany these snakes are also knwon as "Brillenschlange" which literally means "eyeglasses snake"). And guess who is wearing glasses? Coby!
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Violet Horse
For this spot I actually only foud the beatiful Rear Admiral Hina. Like Coby she is rising star and she is the only character I found to fit with the colors. She has violet sunglasses and wears megenta clothes.
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Vermilion Dragon
The last one is a bit tricky. He is neither a member of the Marine nor does this clothes have anything to do with the colors amber or vermilion. But therefore his attacks resembles a the attacks of a Dragon and the colors amber and Vermilion represent the color of his logia powers. Do you who I am talking about? Yes it is the number 2 of the revolutionary army, Sabo.
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As already mentioned for me the EoS Admirals will be the Admirals years after Luffy found One Piece and change the world. So there will be a new World Goverment the Marine is going to protect. So Sabo who fought to create a new World Goverment end up protecting it would fit very well. Actually Vermillion doesn't only represent the red of fire it would also be a tribute to his brothers, because vermilion is the mix of red like Luffy and orange like Ace. Also many connects Sabo with the phoenix because he was reborn and the phoenix is also known as the vermilion bird.

The Fleet Admiral at the End of the Story
Well it is quite clear that in the end Sakazuki will be replaced. And actually the character I expect to be the Fleet Admiral at the End of the Story is neither Smoker nor Issho. I think Smoker will remain Vice Admiral basically becoming the next Garp and Issho might even end up replacing Kong. The character I expect to become the Fleet Admiral is actually Gion. This can be explained by looking at the Chinese Zodiac. If you considere Tokikake and Gion being part of the post TS generation the animal always standing in front of the current generation.
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Gion character also fits to become a leading figure especially because she was introduced as strict person. On top of that she was raised by no less person then the great Tsuru.

Conclusion
In this theory I used the Color and Chinese Zodiac theme to determine future Admirals and their aliases. For every important part in the storyline(pre TS, post TS and EoS) there will be a new Fleet Admiral and a new Admiral Trio. The Fleet Admirals are Sengoku(pre TS), Sakazuki(post TS) and Gion(EoS). The aliases of the three trios are
Pre TS: Yellow Monkey, Blue Pheasant and Red Dog
Post TS: Orange Rat, Green Bull and Wisteria Tiger
EoS: Vermilion Dragon, Chartreuse Cobra and Violet Horse
With John Giantreplacing Borsalino and becomi Admiral Orange Rat. And the EoS trio Sabo aka Vermilion Dragon, Coby aka Chartreuse Cobra and Hina aks Violet Horse.

I really hope you enjoyed reading it. What are your thoughts on it?

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This is actually an old theory of mine, which I wanted to share with you.
https://thrillerbark.com/threads/admira ... eory.1018/


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At first, I was expecting more of the same on the initial patterns based on the title, but I really like the "meat" of the theory with the future predictions! I 100% agree that we have to have a new trio of admirals because of Coby's dream and also the protection of the new world Luffy creates. Hina is a bit iffy in the sense that she isn't as blatant as Smoker who is willing to directly go against Marine/Government orders, but since they are friends it is implied that she is at least similar. She might have shown parts of this but I can't have the exact event come to mind.

Man, this theory should have the essence of it become correct. I don't know the technical aspects with the zodiac and color aspects, so that's above me and my analysis/predicting, but everything else seems to fit with the strong up and coming people that share parts of Luffy's perspective on the world.

I can completely imagine a scene where Coby is trying to recruit Hina (since her ability is perfect for capturing) to go after Luffy. Sabo doesn't care since he knows Luffy can fight them off to escape. Hina doesn't care since she's more "into herself" sort of personality. Perfect "fun" bickering of the admirals.

Great read as usual, so thanks for sharing!


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seiryu wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:45 am
I don't know the technical aspects with the zodiac and color aspects
I think the technical aspects are quite simple.
Primary colors -> Red, Yellow, Blue
Secondary colors -> Mixing 2 primary colors
Tetriary colors -> Mixing a primary colors with a secondary colors

Pre TS Admirals have primary colors in their aliases and new introduced post TS Admirals have secondary colors in their aliases.

And Zodiac is also simple 7 of 12 already used for aliases. And the fix order is: Rat -> Bull -> Tiger -> Rabbiz -> Dragon -> Snake -> Horse -> Goat -> Monkey -> Rooster -> Dog -> Pig -> Rat -> ... After the year of the Dragon always follow the year of the Snake.
(Like after month of Gemini always follow the month of Cancer, in case you are familiar with Latin Zodiac)




Btw sth I should have updated: After writing the theory I figured out that Oda is a huge fan of the Daimajin series and that he even has a huge Daimajin figure in his office. So him making a figure based on Daimajin isn't far fatched.I only came across Daimajin looking for a swordfighting Giant :D


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Nessos wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:11 pm
I think the technical aspects are quite simple.
Primary colors -> Red, Yellow, Blue
Secondary colors -> Mixing 2 primary colors
Tetriary colors -> Mixing a primary colors with a secondary colors
I guess I should clarify that I don't know what colors make secondary colors and what makes tertiary colors! I think I only know "yellow and blue makes...green!" from some kiddie song on a TV show. So I'm just going to assume all of the secondary and tertiary colors are true.
Nessos wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:11 pm
And the fix order is: Rat -> Bull -> Tiger -> Rabbiz -> Dragon -> Snake -> Horse -> Goat -> Monkey -> Rooster -> Dog -> Pig -> Rat -> ...
Hawaii has huge Chinese influences so most Asian people (I have zero Chinese in me) still know their Chinese zodiac sign. I wouldn't be able to tell if the order was changed to make the visualization of the three generations fit, but same thing as the above that I will just assume it is 100% correct since I have enough exposure to roughly know that everything matches my limited exposure.
Nessos wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:11 pm
Btw sth I should have updated: After writing the theory I figured out that Oda is a huge fan of the Daimajin series and that he even has a huge Daimajin figure in his office. So him making a figure based on Daimajin isn't far fatched.I only came across Daimajin looking for a swordfighting Giant :D
Ah, yes! He definitely has a variety of "influences", but there were only a few that were stuff he invested massive space in.

With how perfectly everything fits together, the foundation of the theory seems unquestionable to me. For someone like Fujitora and Ryokugyu, the color association could be something that gets added once they become admirals. So Hina seems like the least likely (but still a great fit from current breadcrumbs) to actually go through. Coby is 100% guaranteed with Sabo being a really great fit because of his desire to protect Luffy currently and the eventual protection of his legacy in the future. Hina is still a good fit, but we have the least amount of information about her.


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