Yesterday wo Utatte

weebywitch

Information: Alternative Title(s): Sing "Yesterday" for Me Japanese イエスタデイをうたって Type:TV Episodes:18 Status:Completed Air date: Sundays at 01 (JST) Premiered: Apr 5, 2020 Studio(s): Doga Kobo Source:Manga Genre(s): Slice of Life, Drama, Romance, Seinen Duration:23 min per ep Synopsis: After college, Rikuo Uozumi, a boy without much ambition in life, takes on a job at a convenience store. The days pass by uneventfully for Rikuo until he meets his former girlfriend and classmate, but especially thanks to the unusual Haru Nonaka, and her pet raven... Available on Crunchyroll (Source: MAL)

weebywitch

So much relationship drama and so many layers. I was predicting that the two youngsters would get together from the moment of the coffee exchange but this last episode makes it abundantly clear that’s the direction we’re heading. I mean he’s freaking enthralled. Sure he says that he’s not giving up on sensei but I bet he’s intrigued by Haru. I saw his eyes. They blew out like crazy.

twelve

I had high expectations for this anime since it's made by Doga Kobo (Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun, and Tada Never Falls in Love). I liked how it started. Characters seemed relatable. Art style is alright too. Looking forward to how the whole thing will pan out. I'm prepared to cry later on but so far, I'm not too attached to any of the characters yet. Favorite character (so far): Haru. Her energy is contagious. And she's cute. : > I was predicting that the two youngsters would get together from the moment of the coffee exchange but this last episode makes it abundantly clear that’s the direction we’re heading. Same! I thought so too the moment I saw this anime's poster. xD After 4 episodes, I honestly believe the two youngsters would be perfect together (even without considering the age factor). They just have to get over this love that they have now. It's just that kind of relationship experience (or unrequited love) that you have to go through before actually knowing what you want out of a partner/ a relationship. Hoping for some character development too, especially from Shinako. I am interested in seeing Haru go back to school. That will probably increase her chances of interacting with Rou. xD

weebywitch

> I had high expectations for this anime since it's made by Doga Kobo (Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun, and Tada Never Falls in Love). I liked how it started. Characters seemed relatable. Art style is alright too. Looking forward to how the whole thing will pan out. I'm prepared to cry later on but so far, I'm not too attached to any of the characters yet. Favorite character (so far): Haru. Her energy is contagious. And she's cute. : I was predicting that the two youngsters would get together from the moment of the coffee exchange but this last episode makes it abundantly clear that’s the direction we’re heading. Same! I thought so too the moment I saw this anime's poster. xD After 4 episodes, I honestly believe the two youngsters would be perfect together (even without considering the age factor). They just have to get over this love that they have now. It's just that kind of relationship experience (or unrequited love) that you have to go through before actually knowing what you want out of a partner/ a relationship. Hoping for some character development too, especially from Shinako. I am interested in seeing Haru go back to school. That will probably increase her chances of interacting with Rou. xD Yes, character growth would be great for everyone. I really thought we were getting some with Shinako but she’s still super tiptoeing around Haru so I don’t know how much she’s grown? As for Riku, he’s got feelings for Haru but is having trouble admitting it and that’s just super shitty. Like OMG, his insecurities are driving me bonkers. He doesn’t think he’s good enough for her so he won’t admit that he likes her? He only wants the one who doesn’t like him? Jesus. I just had an epiphany. I’ve gotta recommend those series to someone ASAP so they can work on their own issues through anime. I really wanna play with my camera more though... NGL they’ve got me in that kind of mood. I do agree on Haru as the best character. She’s awesome in design and personality. No one else compares at all. Rou is nifty and Minato wasn’t bad but Haru is best. I’m glad Haru knows Riku is an asshole though—she’s not blind. This makes me feel better. I’m surprised Rou didn’t show up at the cafe, tbh. He seemed like he would’ve done so. And so much time passed like seasons changed it seems already. Guess they could only handle one conflict at a time—two of you slide the ever present Shinako one in there. Adding Rou in the café would’ve made a potential three-way and more complexity. Gotta let Minato leave the picture first, lay the groundwork for both of them that someone else would be interested. Then Rou gets jealous hearing about Minato... ohh that’s good stuff. I mean, it could happen that they’d chat because she wants to encourage him to go after Shinako. Meanwhile he has to confront an interest he doesn’t realize he has. Hmm guess we’ll see if any of this happens lol. Marco Polo watch some folx deal with interpersonal problems. See if it reminds you of anyone’s approach to life

weebywitch

Wow, he’s got all the ladies and problems and is still oblivious AF. I totally feel his friend though with the amusement because it’s not his problem. Him getting sick and her thinking he was making a move was pretty cute though. I’m not convinced she wasn’t into him as well. ohh. That’s not how I expected this episode to end. I mean, whoa... it got really good what with the new job, the push towards the career moves, Rou-kun making his moves and the dates with Haru. That ending though. I was wondering about the flow with Shinako and Rou but this is even better—and worse, somehow. The relationships are all so convoluted that it’s hard to know who you want where.

twelve

weebywitch

> I really wanna play with my camera more though... NGL they’ve got me in that kind of mood. Same. Episode 5 really gave us that kind of feeling xD Also OUR SHIP GOT DESTROYED IN THIS EPISODE Hahahaha Rou is nowhere to be found. I did not expect this development at all : > Him getting sick and her thinking he was making a move was pretty cute though. I’m not convinced she wasn’t into him as well. Same! I think she liked Rikuo but she had deeper issues with herself so she had to let go and leave. I respect her for that and wish her luck in the future. Episode 5 Tsk! I wanted to see more of the guy who has a crush on Haru since high school. Minato's presence made Rikuo uneasy. I thought our MC was finally gonna make a move or sth. Too bad the classmate will be leaving! : Episode 6 ... Haru: Who was that? Shinako: Dunno. A freeloader, she said. Haru: What the hell? Since when?! He never even told us about it. Shinako: Well, it's not like we're dating him. Haru: I know but...how can you be so calm about this, sensei!? He's cheating on us. Damn this convo killed me HAHAHAHHAA Gotta love drunk Shinako! She's really showing more personality now xD Rivals really make stories more fun! But it doesn't seem like we'll see her again too. : Episode 7 Rou says the manliest things: "I've been watching you in the kitchen ever since I was a kid. I want to be able to see this forever." SHIT A P-PROPOSAL?! : So far, the story isn't as sad and as deep as I expected. I was prepared to be crushed by this anime and cry. Nevertheless, I still enjoy the direction of the story now. YAS!!! All of this... I was watching them like—-ohh snap—and like the coworker said (btw, check out the general animemes thread), he’s lucky that Shinako got mad about the whole thing. He’s got all these women and he’s so blasé about it. Like WTF mate? : When Haru attacked him I was like, violence isn’t the answer but bruh you were asking for it. “What does it have to do with you?” How did you fix your lips to even say that? She’s so into you; she’s been there for you, trying to support you, lift you up, doing for you what you’re doing for Shinako and you’re going to play her like that? Not cool, dude. Rou was really growing up and I thought the foreshadowing of a couple was legit about them—from the kitchen scene to that hug—until she turned it around and went for our lame photographer. He’s not lame so much as just... uninspired and shiftless. I swear the answer to this show is polyamory. They all need to date each other. They each have things that they want and need within one another, there’s not really a single answer in one person. You can’t make him be more assertive. He is who he is. You want the relationship you have with Rou but not the sex... you want to let him comfort you and be there in those ways. You want the other things from Rikuo but you need to be the aggressor because you turned him down/have been the caretaker. It’s okay to have different dynamics with different people. Just communicate and make it happen. I dunno that’s my filter on life coming through. These relationships are too convoluted to play out that way. It’s not like another show where that was possible. These folks are more possessive it seems. And the ex definitely had things she needed to work out but at the same time was the most pure in her affections I think because she wanted what was best for him and his happiness rather than trying to get her way. So she left once she saw she was causing trouble and he might actually have a chance at something with someone.

twelve

> YAS!!! All of this... I was watching them like—-ohh snap—and like the coworker said (btw, check out the general animemes thread HAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for that. That was a really hilarious moment 😂 > He’s got all these women and he’s so blasé about it. Like WTF mate? I think we can both agree that Rikuo really needs to step up his game. It seems to me that he's never gonna get a girl with that kind of attitude. And he's being very inconsiderate of Haru!! Our precious Haru. : He knows how it feels to be the one chasing/longing for someone so how can he be so insensitive??? And when a rival appears, he also gets jealous. Seriously, man? What do you want? It's funny how the adults are the ones who don't know what they want. We see the kids doing their best and pushing for their love to come true. At this point, I think Rou and Haru are really unlucky to be in love with adults who are indecisive : > I swear the answer to this show is polyamory. We both feel this won't happen but it's really the best way now. These guys are giving me a headache because they want stuff from different persons. And I don't see them changing soon. If they continue this way, the kids will definitely get hurt the most. > And the ex definitely had things she needed to work out but at the same time was the most pure in her affections Ohhhh, I agree. Isn't it funny how the random characters that appear once end up to be the people who are more reasonable and know what they want in life? Shinako and Rikuo are both giving me headaches :

weebywitch

> I think we can both agree that Rikuo really needs to step up his game. It seems to me that he's never gonna get a girl with that kind of attitude. And he's being very inconsiderate of Haru!! Our precious Haru. He knows how it feels to be the one chasing/longing for someone so how can he be so insensitive??? And when a rival appears, he also gets jealous. Seriously, man? What do you want? He wants everything! He wants to have his cake and ice cream too! Like he has no self awareness or empathy. None percent. It’s so painful to watch. He’s every oblivious, self-centered asshat ever. It drives me crazy. This is why communication is critical. Like I blame all of them, honestly. Why isn’t Haru using her words more? I get that you were angry but you didn’t set up boundaries with the dickwad so he’s allowed to act like this. And him, he can get jealous because he doesn’t have a clear expectation of what they are... I’m all for relationship anarchy but you still have to communicate what you’re feeling and why. Ugh. > It's funny how the adults are the ones who don't know what they want. We see the kids doing their best and pushing for their love to come true. At this point, I think Rou and Haru are really unlucky to be in love with adults who are indecisive This is a mirror for life though. In today’s world, people are learning much younger how to navigate relationships better. They’re learning consent, boundaries, gender roles, different relationship dynamics and things that weren’t discussed or mainstream when older generations were coming up. So having the youngsters being more self-assured is a pretty good mirror for society. Like you’ve got to constantly be willing to learn, grow and self-improve rather than be stagnant methinks. People can become a product of their times. This show is doing an excellent job of showcasing such things. > We both feel this won't happen but it's really the best way now. These guys are giving me a headache because they want stuff from different persons. And I don't see them changing soon. If they continue this way, the kids will definitely get hurt the most. Yeah I’m worried about that but at the same time... life is pain and one can grow immensely from the heartaches we suffer. > Ohhhh, I agree. Isn't it funny how the random characters that appear once end up to be the people who are more reasonable and know what they want in life? Shinako and Rikuo are both giving me headaches Yeah I mean they’re such great characters with such depth and meaning that it’s too bad they were only used as foils to showcase/highlight the emotional states of our other characters. I guess it’s a good show when you can have side characters of such quality and impact though.

twelve

> I’m all for relationship anarchy but you still have to communicate what you’re feeling and why. Ugh. True. Some discord here and there is nice, especially when all parties grow from it. But I don't see it happening any time soon. I guess that's the good thing about this anime having 18 episodes. We'll still have enough time to see them grow. Hopefully. > Why isn’t Haru using her words more? I get that you were angry but you didn’t set up boundaries with the dickwad so he’s allowed to act like this. I blame this on inexperience. For her, it's all about push push push to get what she wants. No boundaries were made despite her knowing Rikuo has feelings for another woman. It's messed up. I guess Haru is also to blame xD > People can become a product of their times. This show is doing an excellent job of showcasing such things. Oh, you're right. You're right!! I didn't look at it this way. Now that I think about it, I feel like I'm getting annoyed with the adults because I see myself in them sometimes. 😂 Younger people nowadays tend to be so sure of themselves. I envy that. > life is pain and one can grow immensely from the heartaches we suffer. This is very beautiful : I agree. > I guess it’s a good show when you can have side characters of such quality and impact though. It's sad but I guess they did serve their purpose well. Now let's see if they will give our characters some good development in the next episodes. :

weebywitch

> True. Some discord here and there is nice, especially when all parties grow from it. But I don't see it happening any time soon. I guess that's the good thing about this anime having 18 episodes. We'll still have enough time to see them grow. Hopefully. wait, I don’t mean like discord, I mean like lack of definition that comes from labels like “boyfriend” “wife” “friend” this is an explanation of it. > I blame this on inexperience. For her, it's all about push push push to get what she wants. No boundaries were made despite her knowing Rikuo has feelings for another woman. It's messed up. I guess Haru is also to blame xD Right. That’s my point. It’s a two way street. As annoyed as I am with Rikuo, we will be treated according to how we allow ourselves to be treated. So to get upset with someone and punish them for something that we didn’t communicate was out of bounds... in that sense, the adults, or at least Shinako is trying to be more mature. She was mad but trying not to act like it because she had no right to be that way. > Oh, you're right. You're right!! I didn't look at it this way. Now that I think about it, I feel like I'm getting annoyed with the adults because I see myself in them sometimes. Younger people nowadays tend to be so sure of themselves. I envy that. Trust me, this is experience speaking! I’ve been on an every changing roller coaster of learning. Especially with a nesting partner 11 years younger than me who has been growing and evolving from a 21 year old to now. : > This is very beautiful I agree. Aww thanks! : > It's sad but I guess they did serve their purpose well. Now let's see if they will give our characters some good development in the next episodes. : Yes let’s hope there’s great things ahead for them. Though frankly I’m wondering what’s going to happen in that apartment! 😮

weebywitch

So... not only did he not go in but there was all sorts of fuckery in this episode. Everyone got their feelings hurt!! Does anyone know what they want? At this point they’re toying with me more than anyone else. Come in, don’t come in. I want her, but I felt uncomfortable with her and was confiding in Haru. Haru and Shinako have a talk about him. The first time Haru shows up, its beautiful. The second, it’s bad because Shinako stole Haru’s line? Or what? What’s really happening?! Help!! The angst and turmoil are killing me. Is he trying to focus on his career and not love or his career to get Shinako. Is the latter about to get with her little boy toy now over dinner? I need answers!

seiryu

Too many spoilers...but what were your thoughts after the love triangle became the love square? Especially the deceased corner...hard to overcome the "perfect" imagination relationship.

weebywitch

> The main character...annoys the hell out of me. I do not like people that make "petty" excuses. Yes, he’s quite annoying. That’s definitely the case but both main characters are. The adults at least. > Too many spoilers...but what were your thoughts after the love triangle became the love square? Especially the deceased corner...hard to overcome the "perfect" imagination relationship. I can’t tell how far you’ve gotten so I don’t know what to say... I’ll assume you’re only aware of what you’ve stated because of what you just said. Somehow I thought I remembered more elements/people getting introduced before that reveal but okay. She’s childish, naïve and needs to grow the f up. She basically stopped living when that guy died and hasn’t moved forward. Life is change. I respect mourning but they never even had a relationship. She put him on a pedestal and then built her life around the ideal of him such that she never had to risk getting hurt again. She doesn’t know what she wants and is being unfair to those around her in the process. Not that Rikuo is much better. Those two are made for each other with their ridiculousness yet not because there’s others who are so good for them that... ehh I dunno where you are yet. Haru is an absolute doll. She has a lot to learn about setting boundaries but she knows more about herself and what she wants out of life than the other two combined. The spoilers are organized by episode number if you look through them. You can start with the first one for each episode. Or just give me an episode number, I’ll revisit and talk about it again. No worries. I brought you into this so I’m happy to discuss it with you! Glad the anime is better than the manga. I was concerned for a moment there.

seiryu

> Yes, character growth would be great for everyone. I really thought we were getting some with Shinako but she’s still super tiptoeing around Haru so I don’t know how much she’s grown? As for Riku, he’s got feelings for Haru but is having trouble admitting it and that’s just super shitty. Like OMG, his insecurities are driving me bonkers. He doesn’t think he’s good enough for her so he won’t admit that he likes her? He only wants the one who doesn’t like him? Jesus. I just had an epiphany. I’ve gotta recommend those series to someone ASAP so they can work on their own issues through anime. I really wanna play with my camera more though... NGL they’ve got me in that kind of mood. I do agree on Haru as the best character. She’s awesome in design and personality. No one else compares at all. Rou is nifty and Minato wasn’t bad but Haru is best. I’m glad Haru knows Riku is an asshole though—she’s not blind. This makes me feel better. I’m surprised Rou didn’t show up at the cafe, tbh. He seemed like he would’ve done so. And so much time passed like seasons changed it seems already. Guess they could only handle one conflict at a time—two of you slide the ever present Shinako one in there. Adding Rou in the café would’ve made a potential three-way and more complexity. Gotta let Minato leave the picture first, lay the groundwork for both of them that someone else would be interested. Then Rou gets jealous hearing about Minato... ohh that’s good stuff. I mean, it could happen that they’d chat because she wants to encourage him to go after Shinako. Meanwhile he has to confront an interest he doesn’t realize he has. Hmm guess we’ll see if any of this happens lol. I gotta agree that Haru keeps the series afloat. Her willingness to fight an uphill battle and take it head on is something I really admire. But god damn...the mangaka is going overboard with making every character like someone. I don't know the names but the deceased guy's little brother seems like he's got a thing for Shinako too. What's next, Haru getting tired of Riku and going after Shinako too? I think I might have watched episode 6, ah yea. Based on it, I saw Riku's ex-gf episode. If she was OK with his advancement, kinda hard to say she didn't have a part of her that was "into him". I really liked the ex's maturation though. Her, seemingly for the first time, negating the drama she causes from getting guys attracted to her was a great touch. Kinda sad that the character I now like the most probably isn't coming back though.

weebywitch

> I gotta agree that Haru keeps the series afloat. Her willingness to fight an uphill battle and take it head on is something I really admire. But god damn...the mangaka is going overboard with making every character like someone. I don't know the names but the deceased guy's little brother seems like he's got a thing for Shinako too. What's next, Haru getting tired of Riku and going after Shinako too? I think I might have watched episode 6, ah yea. Based on it, I saw Riku's ex-gf episode. If she was OK with his advancement, kinda hard to say she didn't have a part of her that was "into him". I really liked the ex's maturation though. Her, seemingly for the first time, negating the drama she causes from getting guys attracted to her was a great touch. Kinda sad that the character I now like the most probably isn't coming back though. Okay! So Haru is best girl for sure! No doubt about it. Her struggles are life. As for Rou, my heart breaks for the poor guy who’s been pining after Shinako all this time whilst she’s been watching his brother. Like he knows her pain and what she’s feeling but wants to be there for her anyways. And Shinako has tunnel vision. But yes, the ex-gf was my favorite character. I wrote a really eloquent thing about her but whatever. Basically having these characters who are the purest in intentions/feelings show up, and disappear is rough. She actually truly cared for Rikuo and was willing to put aside her self interest for his well-being once she realized he might have a chance elsewhere. She’s got other things going on that she needs to work on within herself too but ultimately she opted to put his happiness before her desires which is what you do when you care about someone. It’s like the rival for Haru who came in and shook things up. These characters are wonderful but can they serve to drive growth and development of the main characters in the process? Because as it stands, the younger generation is clear on what it wants/what it’s doing and the older one is floundering and undefined. This relates to the generational differences in the way we approach things nowadays with sexuality, consent and relationships in general. We’re being taught things a lot differently nowadays than before so people are more assertive and confident than before with the cat and mouse games that used to be played. It’s more about clear and open communication of needs and wants. I really like that this show is highlighting these differences and carrying them over into all aspects of life.

seiryu

> Okay! So Haru is best girl for sure! No doubt about it. Her struggles are life. As for Rou, my heart breaks for the poor guy who’s been pining after Shinako all this time whilst she’s been watching his brother. Like he knows her pain and what she’s feeling but wants to be there for her anyways. And Shinako has tunnel vision. But yes, the ex-gf was my favorite character. I wrote a really eloquent thing about her but whatever. Basically having these characters who are the purest in intentions/feelings show up, and disappear is rough. She actually truly cared for Rikuo and was willing to put aside her self interest for his well-being once she realized he might have a chance elsewhere. She’s got other things going on that she needs to work on within herself too but ultimately she opted to put his happiness before her desires which is what you do when you care about someone. It’s like the rival for Haru who came in and shook things up. These characters are wonderful but can they serve to drive growth and development of the main characters in the process? Because as it stands, the younger generation is clear on what it wants/what it’s doing and the older one is floundering and undefined. This relates to the generational differences in the way we approach things nowadays with sexuality, consent and relationships in general. We’re being taught things a lot differently nowadays than before so people are more assertive and confident than before with the cat and mouse games that used to be played. It’s more about clear and open communication of needs and wants. I really like that this show is highlighting these differences and carrying them over into all aspects of life. I think the most annoying thing is that Shinako has selective tunnel vision. She's fully aware of o feelings and acknowledges that she shares some level of feelings back to him. Rou is definitely a sympathetic character since he's fighting an even bigger uphill battle than Haru. Was it in this thread? I read the earlier chapter discussion posts and had to stop in the middle of your post because I didn't see the next episode (7 I think? and the post was episodes 6 and 7 combined into one). But yes, I definitely appreciate the level of character development in such a short amount of time. This just makes it more frustrating when it doesn't happen for the main characters. It's starting, but I feel like there is nothing for Rikuo. I don't see him pursuing the photography side any level of progress, but that's just the real life aspect of anything in the art fields necessitating some level of greatness to just make a living. Yes, there is "generational" differences and yes, this probably is a key factor for the mangaka when they came up with the plot since it is integrated into all of the main characters/their personalities. I guess I'm probably in the minority but I don't see it as a "generational" thing since I'm still "old school" in mindset despite being millennial age-wise. It's all just a matter of getting to know and understanding where the other person is coming from. That's just basic human relations. But of course that doesn't sell, so the stereotypical infatuation among all characters seems like it's only going to continue.

weebywitch

Well there’s things that are supposed to be generational but really, people can grow and learn regardless of their ages. I know that I’m much more progressive than people my age in many ways. And both myself and my very millennial nesting partner is much more old fashioned in many ways as well. It just depends on the definitions. Like in this case, I was going with the generalizations of the trends towards greater innovations and increased benefits and advocacy for the self in relationships and equality thereof versus a belief in self-sacrifice and suffering in silence or playing games that typified previous approaches to relationship dynamics. Again, everyone is an individual but I tend to find that, young women especially, are being taught, that they can and should, seek what they want in life rather than live in a quagmire of mixed signals and confusion. Umm, as for the photography thing, I don’t know if you’re not watching enough but I really feel like there’s plenty addressing Rikuo’s career motivation, even in his interactions with other characters. It goes back to the rival love interest and the photography competition.

weebywitch

So I’m really conflicted here... poor Haru and Rou. I want them to get what they want but at the same time, they’d make such a cute couple and I thought so from the moment they met each other. Shinako is tempted by Rou or she wouldn’t have to force herself to leave his presence, etc. Rikuo has feelings for Haru as well. He’s just hung up on Shinako. These false dichotomies are ruining things. Why do they feel like they have to choose one or the other? The insidious belief that monogamy is the only answer ruins people’s lives. I get that it’s the answer for some but it clearly isn’t the answer based on the amount of turmoil people suffer and how much cheating occurs in the world. Just saying. The obsessive need for singularity in general is a bit toxic, if you ask me. But moving on. I was really hoping that, having seen the feather, Rikuo would strengthen his spine and reach out to Haru, but no such luck. Instead we get him at the party palming off a gift, Haru pining after him at work and Shinako showing up at the end after running away from Rou.

weebywitch

They do a really good job of showing the complexity of emotions and making you go back and forth with them. I’m actually glad that Shinako called Rikuo out on being ambivalent/split with regard to the fact that he cared about both her and Haru. Also stating that you could love more than one person, in more than one way. That was critical. Like why don’t people realize this? What I want to know is what happened at Haru’s place that she called Rikuo about in the middle of the night. Did the crow die? Like what’s up? Did he actually get a call from someone else about her? Was there a break in? Help me out here. Inquiring minds want to know.