Axis theory

kaijinmaru

I want to put forward a theory I thought of while going through One Piece details with friends/family for the hundredth time. We know the following information to be confirmed true: Enel's Great Space Operation The moon does, and did, have life on it there is at least some atmosphere there as the small robots could fly up using balloons and Enel could make it there on his ship the Maxim Also supporting the atmosphere theory is in Oda's cover art drawings there is a gradient to the sky instead of just black, implying something is reflecting light back, aka atmosphere There is an ancient civilization that both the Shandians and the mechanized robots they created inhabited until they ran out of resources Impel Down, Marineford, Enies Lobby location: There is a location in the world that is eternally day/afternoon, Enies Lobby is referred to as afternoon afternoon island, while there is a hole under the island, as it is not referred to as "day day island" it would not be at the axis of a planet, but near it, counting out the hole under Enies Lobby for this theory. The three are located around a large whirl pool Those above things tell us something, assuming the world is a globe, which I believe we can assume from the Ohara planet representation, would mean that Enies Lobby and the area is right next to an axis of the planet. One of the axis pointed close to directly towards the sun. This also means that the other axis of the world is eternally night and would probably be a very cold or hard place for life to be. The three (marine locations stated above) are located in the Paradise section of the Grand Line, the large whirl pool close to the Calm Belt as Impel Down is in it and part of the three locations. I don't think it would be a stretch to say that that whirlpool is probably the, if not very close to be, the axis of the world. This is where my theory comes in, I believe the other side, is both in the new world, and either also has a whirlpool or other large scale phenomenon. This other axis of the world, is pointing towards the moon. With the above information in mind, I posit that at some point, the ancient weapon Uranus will be found to be located at the moon, was fired in the past void century, and created a massive hole in the planet, realigning it's axis to face the sun and the moon and creating these enormous oceanic phenomenon. From the name Uranus we know it can be associated with "Sky" or "Heaven" which I believe further gives evidence to the moon being where Uranus is, and the world's axis being so close to large scale oceanic phenomenon being proof that it was fired at some point. The other part to this theory does not have much evidence, it involves the Paramount War. At the beginning of this, somehow, White beard gets his flagship and his fleet in to Marineford undetected. My theory for this, using the primary theory as evidence, would be the following: These things are found in issue 551: A pirate fleet gathers at Marineford, somewhere that should be protected by the whirlpool and special current but a fleet got there anyway without being noticed. White beard and his four primary ships appear in the center of Marineford from underwater, showing that they are coated with a substance similar to, if not the same as Shabaody Archipelago's ship coating. The last place we see White Beard in issue 433 is shown to be in the New World. I believe it is safe to assume that White Beard had not traveled back to Paradise from the New World between the time that passed between issues 433 and 551. With that I would put forward that White Beards ships, at least the four of that we knew went underwater, traveled through the planet appearing inside the whirlpool located at Paradise, and made their way to Marineford underwater. Could that be a bit of a stretch? Yes, they could have simply gone underwater close to the three locations and traveled there. It does not sound plausible to me however that the entire Marine force, who keeps sharp eyes on the Yonko, would not know that White Beard had traveled back to Paradise and was on his way to the execution grounds. Let me know what you all think this is just a theory that came to mind that I think sounds plausible for Oda.

Yuuzume

What a way to join the forum, welcome aboard mate. I'm very glad to see new people writing up theories. In case, I'd like to point out the only point I...well, not disagree really, just don't see as likely. Whitebeard could have very well travelled to Marineford in the way that you're suggesting but I don't think such a grand way of entry was even necessary. The Marines laid out the bait and they knew he'd show up there the moment they lost sight of his fleet. Having the battle at home was obviously more advantageous for them so there was no need to track Whitebeard or anything of the sort, they just had to buckle in and wait. Well, I'm not saying Whitebeard didn't go through the world's axis, just that there was probably not really a need to travel so secretly anyway. Well, with that out of the way, I actually really really like the rest, which is the core theory. I had actually written off the giant whirlpool simply as a natural phenomenon but I quite like the idea of Uranus being responsible for it. It certainly fits the bill for a place hit by the likes of an ancient weapon. The empasis you put in said triangle like area actually made me think about the Florian Triangle. It certianly doesn't fit the bill for the world's other axis due to its location but maybe there is a similar area in the new world, since it seems to fit "cold" part of your suggestion. This was actually great to read, honestly. I very much want to point out that it's very neatly written, which I personally greatly appreciate. I'm also quite fond of the logic it's based on. Looking forward to reading more of your theories and / or simply dicussing One Piece with you mate. I probably should have replied to your introduction thread first but I like theories so this caught my attention first. Once again, welcome aboard mate, I hope you enjoy your stay and the discussions / theories here.

kaijinmaru

Yuuzume Agreed that last bit makes a few jumps in logic that don't fully connect. I like the idea however as a grand entry, even if a stretch. The only other stretch in logic I have that works with it is the symbol of the world order, which looks to me like four planets surrounding one in the center. If true, there were two other planets involved in migrating to One Piece's world, with the Sun and Moon being the last two existing other than the planet prime. That again stretches in logic a bit and i"ll have to write up my other theory regarding Luffy and the sun a bit as I have something mulling around that. Regardless I look forward to discussion around One Piece and general theory. It gets to me as well when a theory or idea isn't presented neatly so I feel you there.

Marco Polo

This is a really interesting theory! (Or theories??) Very cool and very creative ideas. Thinking about the logistics of it always being afternoon on Enies Lobby makes my head hurt a little, but I do agree that its existence opens up the possibility of an island where it’s eternally night. I don’t know if that means it’s always pointing at a moon, but that’s a cool idea. I wonder if we’ll see that island in the future? I also really like the way you’ve connected the strange currents to Uranus, since that’s still a total mystery. Question: How will Luffy retrieve it from the moon? Will he retrieve it from the moon? I’m also not sure about the idea of Whitebeard coming out of a whirlpool? Since whirlpools tend to suck things in rather than push them out. I think I side with Yuuzume on his journey not having to be that complicated. There was about a week or so between the announcement of Ace’s execution and the beginning of Marineford. Getting there through “normal” means isn’t a stretch for him. Really great work, I’m excited to read more of your stuff!

seiryu

Wow, this is my favorite theory because this also likely connects to Laugh Tale or at least where the final Road Poneglyph is hidden! I don't know much about planetary rotations, the effects on the ocean, etc. but all of this does seem to fit. The only part that doesn't fit is the two ends of this axis hole being in the Grand Line. The Grand Line is half of the world. The Grand Line is split up into two quarters of the New World and "Paradise". So this doesn't really work unless the hole in the One Piece world is curved. A straight hole would be outside of the Grand Line. Plus a straight hole would destroy the world's core. I 100% agree that there is something behind the abnormal currents for Enies Lobby, Marineford, and Impel Down. I'm going to defend the whirlpool aspect. It takes a master navigator to survive in the New World (see all those that fail travelling to Wano Kuni). Being able to read the different currents and use them advantageously is the essence of surviving all of the crazy weather changes that are already bad in Paradise and get worse in the New World. Just because there is the main whirlpool does not mean there are not others directly next to it. Not much time passes for the Enies Lobby arc, so this could have just been a high/low tide time (or whatever variable) where the entire area is excessively calm.