Four Knights of the Apocalypse (Seven Deadly Sins Sequel)

Johannes

> I re-read them today. Although I kinda hated them the first time I read it, now I'm looking back and they set up the sequel perfectly. Definitely check them out ASAP Also, Chapter 6 is out! Johannes do you know who is doing the official release? Is it Crunchyroll? Might see if I can hook us up with some (legitimate) links... Kodansha Comics announced that The Seven Deadly Sins: Four Knights of the Apocalypse English translation would be released simultaneously with the Japanese version. The first five chapters have already been released on: Crunchyroll Kindle BookWalker Comixology

seiryu

I guess the big flashy stuff had to end sooner rather than later, but we have to have Perci learn and grow with his naivety and development of his powers. > Just like how the Sins were made seem like criminals at the start, I think this prophecy is being made to sound a lot more ominous than it is. With how overwhelming their power is (people are used to magic levels like the troupe members it seems like), I think the natural reaction is to be fearful. At least for Perci's "destruction", I have to assume it will be massive collateral damage from fighting the knights withholding intel on his father. Since I don't care about spoilers, what are the personalities for the likely confirmed other Four Knights? Johannes too. I am biased to think Perci will be the only goody-goody and the others will be driven by their individual goals. I guess this is a perfect initial opponent since he seems to not have much physical combat capabilities and potentially magic as well (dodging a somewhat serious Perci so easily is impressive though).

Johannes

> Since I don't care about spoilers, what are the personalities for the likely confirmed other Four Knights? Johannes too. I am biased to think Perci will be the only goody-goody and the others will be driven by their individual goals. Tristan & Lance are somewhat just like their dads... Tristan = Mel Lance = Ban They have the same goal since Gowther's present to them (revealing their Father's past life/adventures), they both want to be acknowledge by Mel & Ban and be proud for them. Perci and Tristan would probably get along together like good friends, Lance on the other hand would be the cool/cold type and the last one still a mystery (be it King & Dianne's child or Zel & Gelda's child)! Update: Chapter 6 - The Place to Aim For - The cover page is a foreshadowing : - Arthur's Knights of the Round Table (a round castle too)! - Four Knights of Apocalypse: 1 Lancelot - a boy with golden magical power. 2 Tristan - a boy with holiness and evil on his eyes. 3 King & Dianne's son - is a big mysterious boy with no fixed appearance (so he can easily change his size then)! 4 Percival - a boy with green feather-like hair. - I hope that Mage that is talking with the Knights isn't Merlin : and by enemies does he/she meant by the Kingdom of Liones? : - So Pellegarde just wants Perci to be his apprentice!!! - Ironside betrayed Arthur 16 years ago, and now with the prophecy revealed he becomes a loyal knight to the King (another Cath perhaps or an underling of Chaos?) : - Arthur, Merlin, Nanashi of the Goddess Clan and a still young Varghese.... - Perci : : : - Sin, still a mystery for now : : :

seiryu

Woah...I was not expecting the antagonist to be the sibling of the giant. Definitely funny to see her go on a temper tantrum and take out the enemies (her brother created). Is the pacing for Nanatsu no Taizai this fast too? Either way, it looks like we are getting a resolution to this part of the plot with the final experiment being successful through Perci's help and forced testing.

Johannes

Update: Chapter 7 - The Demon at the Valley of Tree Spirits - Who could have done that (nearly splitting the mountain in half)? - Who could Dolores worshipping at? Ludociel Mael or Slader (without wings) : : : - Percival's innocence on catching the prey : : : - I'm guessing the real demon was the one Percival freed (clown lookalike) and Nasiens "The Mad Herbalist" is the son of King & Dianne! : Bob and Nob mention that Nasiens is a demon probably because of his demon like personality (it's because of his experiments the Valley turned out that way)! - It's possible Dolores and Nasiens (if he is what I think it is) could be siblings, but there is also a possibility they're not (It's not like Dianne is the only giant left in the clan)! > Is the pacing for Nanatsu no Taizai this fast too? Well Nanatsu always update weekly! > Either way, it looks like we are getting a resolution to this part of the plot with the final experiment being successful through Perci's help and forced testing. Perci will surely don't mind being a test subject/lab rat :

seiryu

> - Who could have done that (nearly splitting the mountain in half)? - Who could Dolores worshipping at? Ludociel Mael or Slader (without wings) - Percival's innocence on catching the prey - I'm guessing the real demon was the one Percival freed (clown lookalike) and Nasiens "The Mad Herbalist" is the son of King & Dianne! Bob and Nob mention that Nasiens is a demon probably because of his demon like personality (it's because of his experiments the Valley turned out that way)! - It's possible Dolores and Nasiens (if he is what I think it is) could be siblings, but there is also a possibility they're not (It's not like Dianne is the only giant left in the clan)! Thanks. Nice since it sounds like there is going to a whole bunch of overlap! The next chapter has nice expansion on what sort of magical powers are possible. It definitely makes for a great medic. But the twist at the end was sad to see.

Marco Polo

I've read up to Chapter 11. I'm really enjoying this series so far! Here's a REALLY crackpot theory for you: For some reason, I get the feeling he's like, a living embodiment of Meliodas' curse (I can't remember what happened to it at the end of Taizai). His magic, which seems to generate little people/beings (Life), which is the opposite of his supposed Knight title (Death), the little Ouroboros on his cape, and the general resemblace to Meliodas, along with his age (he's born around the time that the Demon King was defeated I think) mean it adds up kinda well, if you think about it. However, if Mel destroyed his curse completely then this is complete nonsense lol

seiryu

> I've read up to Chapter 11. I'm really enjoying this series so far! Here's a REALLY crackpot theory for you: For some reason, I get the feeling he's like, a living embodiment of Meliodas' curse (I can't remember what happened to it at the end of Taizai). His magic, which seems to generate little people/beings (Life), which is the opposite of his supposed Knight title (Death), the little Ouroboros on his cape, and the general resemblace to Meliodas, along with his age (he's born around the time that the Demon King was defeated I think) mean it adds up kinda well, if you think about it. However, if Mel destroyed his curse completely then this is complete nonsense lol Yes, the series is moving along quite quickly! I think my main hope is that one of two things happen: either Percy gets control of his magic soon or we have some sort of consistent "weaker" opponents. All of this, I'll give you what you want if you hit me once aspect will get overused very quickly. As for the Percy theory, I definitely agree that he will be full of "contradictions" but only in regards to the propaganda vs. the reality his grandpa instilled in him. I mean, it looks like he will have to help save a variety of people in order to gain control of his magic. Maybe it is as simple as the stronger his desire to help people, the better and stronger his magic gets.

Marco Polo

OK so I caught up to chapter 15 Percival’s magic is really interesting. He can manifest things that he thinks of, and he can heal himself. It sort of reminds me of goddess clan magic for some reason? I’m really excited to watch him master it. The Chaos staffs seem pretty cool. I’m guessing more Holy Knights have them? I’m also curious what they did with the Coffin of Eternal Darkness for it to be a thing again. Are there more demons sealed in there?

seiryu

Ah, glad the thread got bumped. I only read the synopsis for the major series of the anime...and the story sounds like stuff I normally jump all over. It's probably because 2012 is when I graduated, started working, had to pass my boards, on top of personal life being bleh. Maybe I was still scarred by Bleach and Naruto going to crap after so much potential, but something must have made me not like the first chapter or two of Nanatsu. So I think I'm getting the gist of the carry over from Nanatsu to this series. Percy's magic is the universally adaptable cheat code (since you mentioned the overpowered main characters Marco), so I'm half expecting a new aspect every time a new predicament comes up. Could Percy create guns and projectiles? I assume so. What if he imagines a nuclear bomb?! I guess that would be too over powering, unless the series returns to Demon King/the female deity level of power levels. Either way, there are ways to keep things interesting even when the main character THIS overpowered and the immediate answer is naivety/inexperience. But wait...am I missing something, but isn't "Ironside" the evil father? AND he's only one piece away from completing the seal-thingy too?! Was there anything to seal at the end of Nanatsu Marco Polo Johannes? Damn...I have to assume at the bare minimum, the evil father aspect is delayed and keeping the final piece is the main point of this "mini arc" (seems like anime series/seasons cover an "arc"). I'm seeing tons of potentially literary perfection thus far, so the main aspect for me is how well the connectivity/believability levels remain and (actually equally important for me) the backstories for the other Apocalypse Knights. If they are all as interesting as Percy (and they have to be completely different personality wise), this is going to be a great series. I guess more Nanatsu questions: how was the combat/fighting outside of the very ending? Was the main character (the guy that looks like Percy) correctly scaled back and believable that he shouldn't be one hit KO'ing everyone prior to the Demon King? If so, this series is even easier since it is just steadily developing Percy.

Marco Polo

> Percy's magic is the universally adaptable cheat code (since you mentioned the overpowered main characters Marco), so I'm half expecting a new aspect every time a new predicament comes up. This wouldn’t surprise me at all. None of his abilities make that much sense yet, but he’s supposed to be strong enough to help defeat King Arthur, whose magic is quite literally reality-bending (I don’t know if you finished Nanatsu but I would definitely recommend reading the last 10 or so chapters to get a basic idea of what Arthur’s ability for this series is). His basic abilities seem very strong, so when he starts mastering his magic, I could see things going a bit crazy... > Was there anything to seal at the end of Nanatsu @Marco Polo @Johannes? I don’t believe anything happened with the seal at the end, actually. It’s been “off” since the Demon Clan got released into Britannia. It really depends on what happened to the lower class demons etc. after the end of Nanatsu. I’m genuinely not sure what they’ll do with it. > If they are all as interesting as Percy (and they have to be completely different personality wise), this is going to be a great series. One of the knights is going to be Meliodas/Elizabeth’s child (Tristan). He’s a Demon/Goddess/Human hybrid so his magic should be interesting. Another will be Lancelot, Ban and Elaine’s child. Half fairy, half human. They did a little side story for him between the end of Nanatsu and the start of this series which is worth a read because it sets up his character quite nicely. The fourth knight is still a big question mark, the only thing we know is what we were told in one of the earlier chapters of this series. > I guess more Nanatsu questions: how was the combat/fighting outside of the very ending? Was the main character (the guy that looks like Percy) correctly scaled back and believable that he shouldn't be one hit KO'ing everyone prior to the Demon King? If so, this series is even easier since it is just steadily developing Percy. So the first 100 chapters were very good and felt very consistent, but then there was a HUGE leap in enemy power level when the Demon Clan were released, so everything went a bit iffy after that. And when I say iffy, I mean the powerscaling was a MESS. Meliodas (MC) basically powered up by having his “true” power level gradually unsealed in various ways. He’s essentially Demon King level at his “prime”, but his power is sealed for a flurry of reasons. His “true” magic (not Full Counter) is stronger than the Demon King’s, and he conveniently decides towards the end of the series that after 3000 years of suffering, he’s ready to use it. Every time he got some of his power back, a character would say something like “THIS is the true Meliodas”, only for him to get another massive powerup at a later date. The rest of the Sins were a bit of a mixed bunch. Merlin (who will be a big part in this series) basically has infinite magic that she can call upon so all she really did was try slightly harder towards the end, Escanor (Pride/Sun guy) was basically built on the premise that he was invincible so his ability literally allowed him invincibility at times, and the rest of the Sins got a single power boost that took them from being far too weak to handle the Demon Clan (Meliodas and Escanor did a LOT of the heavy lifting for about 100 chapters) to being the strongest of their respective races. I have a lot of issues with Nanatsu’s powerscaling but 4KoA shouldn’t have the same problem because we’re being introduced to characters who eventually become the strongest, rather than characters who are supposedly the strongest but are weakened massively for plot reasons.

seiryu

> This wouldn’t surprise me at all. None of his abilities make that much sense yet, but he’s supposed to be strong enough to help defeat King Arthur, whose magic is quite literally reality-bending (I don’t know if you finished Nanatsu but I would definitely recommend reading the last 10 or so chapters to get a basic idea of what Arthur’s ability for this series is). His basic abilities seem very strong, so when he starts mastering his magic, I could see things going a bit crazy... Ah, I'll probably read the ending by the next time I post here. I only read synopsis/plot summaries for the anime seasons, but since they were well written, I get a pretty clear picture of each arc/season. They mentioned Arthur being like a "chosen one", but if he's even more over-powered than the already over-powered characters, I guess this explains why there is this current Four Knights series. > I don’t believe anything happened with the seal at the end, actually. It’s been “off” since the Demon Clan got released into Britannia. It really depends on what happened to the lower class demons etc. after the end of Nanatsu. I’m genuinely not sure what they’ll do with it. Ah, perfect. It sounded this way from what I read. Since it is strong enough to seal the entire demon clan, maybe there is an alternative usage (i.e. something magical that is not just "sealing")? Unless there is going to be the introduction of a new clan, there isn't anything to trap...but with it coming back and being collected by the main baddie, it's going to be something important. > One of the knights is going to be Meliodas/Elizabeth’s child (Tristan). He’s a Demon/Goddess/Human hybrid so his magic should be interesting. Another will be Lancelot, Ban and Elaine’s child. Half fairy, half human. They did a little side story for him between the end of Nanatsu and the start of this series which is worth a read because it sets up his character quite nicely. The fourth knight is still a big question mark, the only thing we know is what we were told in one of the earlier chapters of this series. Ah, I specifically wanted to go back to this chapter (I had to browse through chapters 3-5 I think) because now I have context. The names of the kids weren't mentioned since that's major spoilers, but I guess I have another reason to read the ending of Nanatsu at least. However, what comes to mind on the last Apocalype Knight is the sun-powered guy. He's essentially the most overpowered character throughout Nanatsu from what I'm understanding. When I read the "golden magic", this immediately came to mind. Is his magic golden in the anime? If not, maybe it is for the better to have someone that is completely new in all aspects (since Percy is having major overlap with the main character of Nanatsu). > So the first 100 chapters were very good and felt very consistent, but then there was a HUGE leap in enemy power level when the Demon Clan were released, so everything went a bit iffy after that. And when I say iffy, I mean the powerscaling was a MESS. Meliodas (MC) basically powered up by having his “true” power level gradually unsealed in various ways. He’s essentially Demon King level at his “prime”, but his power is sealed for a flurry of reasons. His “true” magic (not Full Counter) is stronger than the Demon King’s, and he conveniently decides towards the end of the series that after 3000 years of suffering, he’s ready to use it. Every time he got some of his power back, a character would say something like “THIS is the true Meliodas”, only for him to get another massive powerup at a later date. The rest of the Sins were a bit of a mixed bunch. Merlin (who will be a big part in this series) basically has infinite magic that she can call upon so all she really did was try slightly harder towards the end, Escanor (Pride/Sun guy) was basically built on the premise that he was invincible so his ability literally allowed him invincibility at times, and the rest of the Sins got a single power boost that took them from being far too weak to handle the Demon Clan (Meliodas and Escanor did a LOT of the heavy lifting for about 100 chapters) to being the strongest of their respective races. I have a lot of issues with Nanatsu’s powerscaling but 4KoA shouldn’t have the same problem because we’re being introduced to characters who eventually become the strongest, rather than characters who are supposedly the strongest but are weakened massively for plot reasons. Ah, I would have had a hard time with the entire middle of the series then. Man...the main character being as strong as the final enemy from the start...but there were multiple seals/power ups along the way (the big one sounded like the elf training) so it is probably only crazy looking at it after completion. Hmm...sounds like the flaw of most fighting-based series where it is just hard to develop 5, 10, 15, 20 different characters with necessary tiers of power levels for each step of the plot. At least it wasn't the cop out of everyone getting a dues ex machina power up every climax fight because of their willpower (Bleach comes to mind other than the stereotypical Dragon Ball). I think I missed it because I had zero context, but there has to be original characters that are still alive correct? It seems like everyone except humans should have a lifespan that keeps them alive in the current plot. I read that Merlin is actually some tiny kid right? So even though she's human, she's probably still around. But like you mentioned, the most exciting aspect is that everyone in this series is just on a different power level/tier. Hopefully the enemy knights so far are the weakest of the group (there's a whole ton of them in that meeting hall). So this first part of the series is Percy steadily learning to control his "do everything magic". However, we run into a similar problem as the Meliodas and Escanor problem if 3-4 of the Apocalypse Knights are together too early. The enemy isn't going to be stupid and just have dozens of 1v1 fights in a row, so things should just rapidly ramp up into the full scale war once we get introduced to the third and fourth allies. With Percy's magic being so much of a cheat code, maybe he meets all of the other three members just in time for the war/prophecy part. I keep expecting the plot to diverge, but I keep forgetting series cannot be like One Piece and have a 10-20-30 year plot. So even though Ironside won't be defeated anytime soon (probably), he has some sort of plot with the seal that should be exciting. Since Percy has to make big jumps, maybe the seal getting completed is the fight that gets his next power up.

Marco Polo

> Ah, I'll probably read the ending by the next time I post here. I only read synopsis/plot summaries for the anime seasons, but since they were well written, I get a pretty clear picture of each arc/season. They mentioned Arthur being like a "chosen one", but if he's even more over-powered than the already over-powered characters, I guess this explains why there is this current Four Knights series. I'll wait until you've seen his ability before I say anything more, but I will say that I highly doubt that any of the four surpass him individually - even at end of series levels. > Since it is strong enough to seal the entire demon clan, maybe there is an alternative usage (i.e. something magical that is not just "sealing")? Unless there is going to be the introduction of a new clan, there isn't anything to trap...but with it coming back and being collected by the main baddie, it's going to be something important. The only potential "new" clan would be the Goddesses (they never really got revealed properly in Taizai), but they aren't sealed in the Coffin as far as I remember. I might be forgetting something though, so don't hold me to this. > However, what comes to mind on the last Apocalype Knight is the sun-powered guy. He's essentially the most overpowered character throughout Nanatsu from what I'm understanding. When I read the "golden magic", this immediately came to mind. Is his magic golden in the anime? This is one of the popular theories I think. Sunshine looks more fire-like in the anime, but I can see it passing as "golden". > Man...the main character being as strong as the final enemy from the start...but there were multiple seals/power ups along the way (the big one sounded like the elf training) so it is probably only crazy looking at it after completion. The first couple of powerups were justifiable, but the last one (which is the one that took him past Demon King level) was a bit much. They never officially gave it a name and he supposedly gives up the power at the end of the series, but it seemed like something introduced for convenience rather than it being a foreshadowed powerup.

seiryu

> I'll wait until you've seen his ability before I say anything more, but I will say that I highly doubt that any of the four surpass him individually - even at end of series levels. Woah...I think the chapter on "A Fragment of Chaos" probably foreshadows the end of this series perfectly. This is the sort of stuff I eat up! So the other major aspect is that it is also foreshadowed that the previous protagonists will be there if Arthur goes down the wrong path. Damn, it makes sense why Percy has to have a universally adaptable magic. He is the opposite of Chaos, but just to a lower total level of magic power. Based on what I read about magic powers, it is one specific skillset like our poison guy. It can be adaptable to heal or poison, but there is a set classification. Does the different classifications of magic the first Holy Knight mentioned come up in Nanatsu? But I'm assuming just like the end of Nanatsu, the other three Apocalypse Knights will just be masters of their specific magic. Tristan will have both the Demon and Goddess powers/magic. I assume the full counter aspect will continue with Tristan, so that probably helps as a perfect defense. Lancelot presumably inherits Ban's various "thief" based skills on top of the fairy powers/magic. Ah, there is also the child of the Giant girl and the Fairy King. This is the only other likely candidate for the last Apocalypse Knight. Considering the foreshadowing of the previous protagonists being there to "save Arthur" essentially, it makes sense that the children of them are the Apocalypse Knights. Sooo...considering the literal reality bending extent of power/magic, it makes sense that everyone has a "second" specialty magic. I.E. Tristan has the Demon/Goddess mix plus an individual specialty (maybe a physical enhancement would be best since Full Counter makes him the tank of the group). Lancelot has whatever category the poison guy has since Ban's power is kinda all over the place. But Growther should still be 100% relevant since mind alteration is the "ultimate magic". Arthur is not the same Arthur we see at the end of Nanatsu, so essentially Growther could be the cheat code that ends this series. Similarly, Meliodas, Merlin, the Giant girl, and the Fairy King should all be alive now. But they are all waaaaaay too weak to fight Arthur, so maybe they just make cameos and stabilize Arthur's mind since he is being twisted by the negative side of Chaos? Damn, it's kinda crazy how much of the plot is already set, but hopefully the journey exceeds this set outline. > The only potential "new" clan would be the Goddesses (they never really got revealed properly in Taizai), but they aren't sealed in the Coffin as far as I remember. I might be forgetting something though, so don't hold me to this. I'm really thinking there is something other than sealing that the puzzle thing can do. Reading the most recent chapter, Ironside will likely get his way and trigger something to get the plot further progressing. Demons and Goddesses are waaaaaay too weak right? Bringing out a bunch of pawns does nothing for the plot, so there has to be some sort of different usage.> This is one of the popular theories I think. Sunshine looks more fire-like in the anime, but I can see it passing as "golden". Ah, probably not then if it isn't clearly gold. So this makes it definitive for me that it is the son of the last couple of the previous protagonists. And if that's the case, it fits that they all have different individual specialty magic powers too. Or...reading that the Sacred Tree was Chaos's third "child" with the Giants being the fourth race, they both overlap with a strong connection to the earth/use mother nature for their magic. Maybe the golden aspect is the perfect unity of these seemingly opposite ends of the spectrum (giant and tiny). > The first couple of powerups were justifiable, but the last one (which is the one that took him past Demon King level) was a bit much. They never officially gave it a name and he supposedly gives up the power at the end of the series, but it seemed like something introduced for convenience rather than it being a foreshadowed powerup. The plot summary I read said he used the Demon King power to destroy his father or something like that? The Ten Commandments had to be destroyed, so he used his last B.S. power up to permanently kill the Demon King (which was necessary for Chaos to awaken). I'm seeing the potential for literary perfection here, so I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt that it probably fits better than it seems. Or at least the big picture stuff fits really, really well.

Marco Polo

OK just read chapters 15-20 So it looks like the gang are going to take out Ironside. I still don’t really know what he’s doing with the coffin? It sounded like he wanted to seal someone or something, but it’s not 100% clear to me? Also Percival’s magic is quite literally “nakama power.” Hahahahaha

seiryu

> OK just read chapters 15-20 So it looks like the gang are going to take out Ironside. I still don’t really know what he’s doing with the coffin? It sounded like he wanted to seal someone or something, but it’s not 100% clear to me? Also Percival’s magic is quite literally “nakama power.” Hahahahaha Based on the raw I read, Ironside seems to be trying to unseal demons. The demons will destroy the country for him. Why he needs this is not expanded on. Does the mangaka take people out all the time? Feels anticlimactic for the "end of the series" stuff to happen so early on (Ironside getting defeated). "Hope" seems perfect since I'm assuming Percy will be the unifying personality. I'm rooting for the 3 other apocalypse knights to be the children of the original protagonists. Matches potential foreshadowing at the end of Nanatsu. But speaking of Percy's magic...the mini-Percy's are fusing with his grandpa's cloak. I'm semi-recalling that someone said it might have been magical. Considering chaos is super levels of magic, Percy's ability to materialize the thoughts of himself and his companions/friends is probably the primary counter to chaos. Considering Arthur has somehow become corrupt, the "hope" is necessary for the world to not be destroyed.

Marco Polo

> Does the mangaka take people out all the time? Feels anticlimactic for the "end of the series" stuff to happen so early on (Ironside getting defeated). Nakaba notoriously does not kill people off until the last second. He's probably just as bad as Oda with death fakeouts. Not just in Nanatsu, but in the other series of his I read too (Kongoh Bancho) > "Hope" seems perfect since I'm assuming Percy will be the unifying personality. I'm rooting for the 3 other apocalypse knights to be the children of the original protagonists. Matches potential foreshadowing at the end of Nanatsu. I would agree with this. I thought the new girl (Angalahad/Ann I think she's called?) could be a contender as one of the knights given she has some kind of special ability, but I'm probably wrong on that. I'm still expecting Meliodas/Tristan to show up before the gang leave Liones, though? Although if Percy has awakened his ability he's probably going to defeat Ironside so there's no need for Mel/Tristan to intervene. > But speaking of Percy's magic...the mini-Percy's are fusing with his grandpa's cloak. I'm semi-recalling that someone said it might have been magical. That sounds right. His grandfather had a lot of magical items (the knife Percy used to cut wild animal meat a few chapters back also springs to mind) that he taught his grandson to use without saying "this is magic". > Considering chaos is super levels of magic, Percy's ability to materialize the thoughts of himself and his companions/friends is probably the primary counter to chaos. Definitely. It's a VERY powerful magic, but then Chaos is quite literally world-bending so it needs to be equally ridiculous.

Marco Polo

I wonder who that mystery attacker is? If we’re in Liones then I suspect it could be someone we know… Also, according to a tweet from the official account Chapter 22 is of special interest for Taizai readers: https://twitter.com/4kishi_official/status/1406837363574071298?s=21 So I would suspect we’re seeing someone from the OG series. Based on the ability, it looks like Gilthunder (it could be lightning). Or, we’re going to see Tristan for the first time. I’m curious to see who it is! The fight sequence in this chapter was really well done, and the Ironside face reveal at the end was cool… he does look like Grandpa after all.

seiryu

> Nakaba notoriously does not kill people off until the last second. He's probably just as bad as Oda with death fakeouts. Not just in Nanatsu, but in the other series of his I read too (Kongoh Bancho) Ah, so even more so then if he doesn't like killing off characters.> I would agree with this. I thought the new girl (Angalahad/Ann I think she's called?) could be a contender as one of the knights given she has some kind of special ability, but I'm probably wrong on that. I'm still expecting Meliodas/Tristan to show up before the gang leave Liones, though? Although if Percy has awakened his ability he's probably going to defeat Ironside so there's no need for Mel/Tristan to intervene. Yes, we were shown twice on how Ann's ability works. The larger the "shadow" she sees on the person, the greater the extent of the lie. Sin had a 1/3 maybe 40% lie when he talks about what he is going to do to save the town (and we see the magical results in the latest chapter). This new chapter now includes that she can get context of the lie depending on how strong the feelings are. Since Sin is a mystery and keeps his secrets to himself, she has zero context on the lie. Hmmm...I guess I would really like the plot progressing that fast, but I'm now biased to think Percy has to save a bunch of people and help his current comrades achieve their dreams. I'm thinking there is a transition to the "serious" part of the series and this is when the other three knights get introduced out of necessity. None of them would respect Percy unless he can fight on their levels. > That sounds right. His grandfather had a lot of magical items (the knife Percy used to cut wild animal meat a few chapters back also springs to mind) that he taught his grandson to use without saying "this is magic". Yup, just like how the technique to both skin, debone, and properly carve the birds they ate is just a good sword combination. Speaking of Percy's grandpa, I really would have liked the contrast of his happy face contrasting with Ironside's pissed off face. The resemblance is enough that we don't need to see grandpa upset with Percy. > Definitely. It's a VERY powerful magic, but then Chaos is quite literally world-bending so it needs to be equally ridiculous. To tie off of my bias on the "fun" introduction of the series vs. the "serious" (vs. chaos part of the series), I'm thinking the "strength" of his friend's thoughts affects the strength of his hope magic. Percy becomes the literal "anti-chaos" when he has three knights focusing on the same thought/goal. > I wonder who that mystery attacker is? If we’re in Liones then I suspect it could be someone we know… Also, according to a tweet from the official account Chapter 22 is of special interest for Taizai readers: Oh...so the attacks are not Sin then? I initially misread the chapter numbers, so I thought there was the character introduced in chapter 21. So right off the bat, if this ground projectiles is a someone's power, then I guess that's the special announcement. Is there any legitimacy to Sin being Merlin? She can change her appearance right? She's also the one the started/created the magic orbs? > I wonder who that mystery attacker is? If we’re in Liones then I suspect it could be someone we know… Also, according to a tweet from the official account Chapter 22 is of special interest for Taizai readers: https://twitter.com/4kishi_official/status/1406837363574071298?s=21 So I would suspect we’re seeing someone from the OG series. Based on the ability, it looks like Gilthunder (it could be lightning). Or, we’re going to see Tristan for the first time. I’m curious to see who it is! The fight sequence in this chapter was really well done, and the Ironside face reveal at the end was cool… he does look like Grandpa after all. Oh...pretty boy would be popular among the fans and he isn't strong enough to ruin the "fun" part of the series.

Johannes

Will catch up to the series (one of this days) :

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