its been noted that sanj has similarities to sabo as well as their situation and they both first appeared as solely martial artists and later developed a fire ability ( diable jambe , sabo has a fire fruit ) sabo uses a style named the dragon claw fist (ryusoken ) which focuses on the hands and sanjis style focuses on the feet to avoid injuring the hands and they both learnt their respective martial art styles from the man who invented it who also saved their lives ( zeff and dragon respectively) onepiece . wikia . com/wiki/Ryusoken
some posts comparing sabo and sanji everyone should read it :
This a merely a short analysis, if you will, that came upon me suddenly through the introduction of the Vinsmoke Family and their interactions with Sanji. Throughout their introduction, I was getting mad “Sabo’s Childhood” vibes and the pieces clicked into place upon the release of Manga Chapter 833 (and 834, to an extent).
Now, to be clear, before I go pointing out similarities and the like, I am not in any way implying that the two are in identical situations. Their circumstances are different, family structure and strength are different, and even the characters ages at the time are different! I just noticed a similarity in their circumstances.
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Now…let’s get to the main topic of this analysis!Introducing two of our favorite blonde, runaway nobles: Sabo and Sanji!!
Besides the obvious fact that both Sabo and Sanji are runaways and greatly dislike (and even renounce) their families
-Their families are rather similar in their mindset and ultimate goals (which, admittedly, are a common trait in snobbish nobles within the One Piece world). The similarity in the two’s situation will be explained in each section below.
Family Goals & Motivations· Both families have a similar goal: To gain power and glorify the family name.
The Vinsmoke Family wish to take over North Blue, hence the alliance with Big Mom, and Sabo’s family yearn to advance their social standing, which in turn, grants them further influence and power.
If their offspring bring “shame” to the family, then they are obviously useless to the family.
In Sabo’s case, while his blood kin thought him a disgrace, his father’s solution was to trap him in the family home and try and force his ideas on him. While similar to Sanji’s father (from what we’ve seen so far), the difference is that Sabo’s father saw worth in getting Sabo back BECAUSE he was related by blood. Now Outlook III (Sabo’s father) HAD of course adopted another child as a backup, but in Vinsmoke Judge’s case, Sanji WAS the backup (despite sharing bonds by blood).
Might I also mention that both had jerks as siblings (and, by siblings, I mean siblings that are a part of their ‘blood’ family)?
Family Ideas or the “Noble Privilege”
· Peasants are nothing but trash. They’re meant to be used or discarded, nothing else.
Part of the reason both Sanji and Sabo were seen as a disgrace was through their association with ‘commoners’ or their participation in ‘commoner activities,’ such as cooking. Both families saw them as inferior and therefore, the tendencies of both Sabo and Sanji disgust them.
On the flip side, that blatant disregard for other people is a big part of why both sons hate their families so much. They see such attitudes as inhumane and as adults, both work against it in their own way. Sanji doesn’t let anyone go hungry and Sabo works as a revolutionary.
Family Method to Power
· Both families also employ an identical method in order to cement their power: Marrying off their son.
One main difference between the two, of course, were the ages of Sabo and Sanji respectively when the plan was formed. To Sabo’s parents, his fate since birth was to marry royalty to cement a higher standing for their noble family. And for Vinsmoke Judge, who was already royalty, he (seemingly) brought Sanji back for that purpose as well (marrying into a Yonko’s family = instant power).
Essentially, both families brought back their blood heirs simply for the sake of marrying them off in an attempt to permanently elevate their standing. Both were completely fine with the idea of sacrificing their “useless” or “disgraceful” son for power.
I thought it a curious similarity. Of course, the method makes sense as bluebloods marrying bluebloods was the norm for nobles in the past. Either way, neither of these two characters want that fate and I can’t much blame ‘em. Arranged marriages, bleck.
· Both families have their heirs’ return through threatening the safety of their loved ones.
This point is self-explanatory really, but the ONLY reason Sabo and Sanji returned semi-willingly to their blood kin was to protect their nakama.
That’s some low tactics there. Low, but effective.
Final Tid-bit
· Tenryuubito influence much?
Just an observation, but am I the only one who finds the fact that both Sanji’s and Sabo’s dreams were threatened by Tenryuubito influence interesting? Both directly and indirectly, the Celestial Dragon’s managed to prevent the two’s freedom.
In Sabo’s case, he set sail early to fulfil his dream and gain freedom from his parents, but a Celestial Dragon (literally) blasted that plan to bits.
And in Sanji’s case, the explosive wristlets that his father had put on him keep him from attempting to escape because the detonation would destroy his hands. And if a chef has no hands…well, cooking is no longer an option. If Sanji can’t cook, then finding All Blue would be pointless and he’d no longer be able to feed the hungry or his crew. Effectively destroying his dream and “job” on the Straw Hats crew.
orojackson . com/one-piece-th…y-nobles-and-the-girls-with-a-fishy-past . 154/
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sanji
Mostly seen wearing formal clothing, i.e. dress shirts, suits, ties etc.
- Official colour is Blue.
- Blond.
- Covers one eye.
- Like to hang around with an orange-haired girl.
- Comes from a ‘royal’ family.
- Ran away from family at a young age.
- Said family wants to get him married against his will.
- The marriage is solely for political means.
- Would rather marry orange-haired girl. (JK maybe, maybe not..I’m hoping he does lol!)
- Is the 'third’ son in his family, and part of minter-trio.
- Has fire powers. (Diable Jambe)
- Lead by a member of the Monkey D. family. (Luffy).
- Went back to family just for the sake of protecting nakama! (Nami, Chopper and Brook)
Sabo:
- Mostly seen wearing formal clothing, i.e. dress shirts, coats, gloves, hat etc.
- No official colour, but is always seen wearing blue.
- Blond.
- Scar covering one eye.
- Likes to hang around with an orange-haired girl.
- Comes from a 'Noble’ family.
- Ran away from family at a young age.
- Said Family wanted to get him married against his will.
- The marriage was solely for political means.
- Would will rather marry orange-haired girl. (JK again, but we all know its gonna happen! @Divvens )
- Is part of the ASL 'trio’.
- Has fire powers. (Mera Mera no mi)
- Lead by a member of the Monkey D family. (Dragon)
- Went back to family just for the sake of protecting nakama! (Ace and Luffy)
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orojackson . com/threads/sanjis-situation-is-similar-to-someone . 33851/
the-shitty-restaurant . tumblr. com/post/149464628290/parallels-between-sanji-and-sabo
the-shitty-restaurant . tumblr . com/post/149464406115/sanjis-and-sabos-sacrifice
While this doesn’t DIRECTLY deal with the family itself, but rather the status- I felt that with the release of Manga Chapter 837, this was an interesting comparison to add to the post. xD Thanks for the incentive to tack on more information Chap. 837!
(The reason why this was added to the thread is self-explanatory from the dialogue and reaction from Luffy respectively)
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onepiece . wikia . com/wiki/Sabo
Sabo is similar to Sanji as…
Both were born into royal families and hated their royal status.
Both escaped their life of royalty and ended up having a preferred life (A revolutionary for Sabo, a cook for the Baratie and the Straw Hat Pirates for Sanji).
Both their fathers saw them as disappointments.
Both were forced to marry a woman of their parents choosing.
Both hated their siblings.
Both returned back to their royal status to prevent their loved ones from getting killed and were threatened by their fathers if they did not cooperate (Luffy and Ace for Sabo, Zeff for Sanji).
Both had something destroyed by their fathers when they were young (The drawing Sabo had made for his father, the food Sanji prepared for a mouse).
Both had pirates involved in their return to their royal status (The Bluejam Pirates for Sabo, the Big Mom Pirates for Sanji).
Both were locked up by their fathers for showing disgrace.
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and there is a comparison between judge and bluejamboth of them were promised something by a powerful ruler bluejam a king promising becoming noble judge promising an alliance with a yonko and for the yonko is a queen but turns out the ruler they had their hopes in were pulling one over on them and never planned on keeping their word/planning to kill them and take what they want/ let them die doing his dirty work ( bluejam)
except this time the king was betrayed by the pirate
edit : as @genomynt said in their reblog to my post genomynt . tumblr . com/post/177504958587/sanjis-similaritys-to-sabo
Plus, their straight ships with Nami and Koala had contrasting parallels to each other:
While Nami was forced to join Arlong’s crew against her will, Koala only traveled with the Sun Pirates because they were asked to take her.
While both were forced to wear their crew’s mark, Koala’s “mark of the sun” was put on to replace another mark. Nami’s Arlong tattoo was removed and replaced with a tattoo of her own design.
When Koala joined the Sun Pirates, she was finally allowed to cry, whereas with Nami, after she was forced to join Arlong she refused to cry.
Koala was never forced to do any work as she was freed from slavery. Nami was forced to draw maps and act as a slave to Arlong.
Koala’s time in the crew was only meant to be temporary while Arlong intended to keep Nami in the crew forever.
In Koala’s case, her hometown exchanged her freedom with the Marines for the lives of the fishmen. In the case of Nami’s hometown, they fought against the fishmen for their freedom after the Marines betrayed them.
Each girl ended up with a permanent mark replacing a former mark of enslavement as a result of affiliation with fishmen.
Source: onepiece . wikia . com/wiki/Koala
Nami vs Koala!
Nami
- Has orange hair.
- Has a past involving fishmen.
- Fishmen were mean to her.
- Was enslaved (kind of) by fishmen.
- Has a tattoo covering up her mark of slavery.
- The mark was the Jolly Roger of Fishmen.
- Calls aforementioned nakama: “Sanji-kun”.
- Disciplines Sanji with her fist.
Koala
- Has orange hair.
- Has a past involving fishmen.
- Fishmen were kind to her.
- Was freed from slavery by fishmen.
- Has a tattoo covering up her mark of slavery.
- The cover up was a Jolly Roger of fishmen.
- Calls aforementioned colleague: “Sabo-kun”
- Disciplines Sabo by pinching his face. (kinda similar, maybe she also punches him..!)
Source: orojackson . com/one-piece-theories-and-speculations/the-runaway-nobles-and-the-girls-with-a-fishy-past . 154/
I think pudding will die
sabo lost his memories at the end of his flashback and sanji was arranged to marry pudding with the memory DF allowing her to take peoples memories and she took his memory of her kissing him away which makes me think that sanji will regain his memory of her kissing him just like how sabo regained his memories ( which may suggest puddings death given that it was ace’s death that caused sabo to regain his memories and if pudding dies her devil fruit ability and the changes she made to peoples memories will go away)
and I believe it will be due to the blackbeard pirates for they are on a df hunt and the memory fruit is useful for gathering info like say if they used the fruit on robin to look into her memories about the poneglyphs so they can know where raftel is etc
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