My first theory on VCC! *waku waku* : . Okay, so, just a short warning before I get into the actual theory. This theory will contain quite a few things so even by my standards, I can only describe it as "brobdingnagian" size wise. For those who are familiar with me, brace yourselves : , and for those of you who aren't, the safe word is "uncle" : .
"But Yuu, why would I read this wall text of a theory when I've already read plenty more about the same subject and they all ended up being the same?"
Well, simple, this one is different so I promise it's worth the read.
- A new view on haki and souls that's further implemented on other subjects. We're at Wano now so new information is bound to influence old concepts. This theory is up to date. :
- A new fundamental take on all the ancient weapons and fun new details about Poseidon and Pluton.
- A very fresh, original and thorough view on the so far unknown weapon, Uranus! I'm very confident you'll enjoy this part the most! :
- Piecing everything together to make out the facts surrounding Joy Boy.
Then, without further ado, let's get right into the theory. : The obvious place to start on a theory about the Ancient Weapons and Joy Boy is of course...devil fruits.
Devil Fruits and Haki:
Devil fruits were originally introduced as magical fruits that gift their users specific abilities in exchange for rendering them unable to swim. Now however, 995 chapters later, we have learnt a variety of information about them. The main thing I want to focus on here is the idea that the "devil" of each user resides, at least primarily, in their soul. I cannot stress out enough how important the concept of the soul has become in One Piece, especially since the introduction of haki and the continuous development of both haki and devil fruits in the series. Haki, or to use the word "willpower" to make its connection with the soul more apparent, appears to be a product and one aspect of a person's soul. It's also why haki can affect Logia users and allow haki users to hit them properly, being a prouct of the soul it can affect the devil inside of a user and therefore the user themselves. The question is, who is the most knowledgeable about these qualities and implications of haki and devil fruits in the current One Piece universe? I believe the answers most people would give would be something along the lines of "Roger's former crew and the World Government", something I would agree with assuming we were talking about who's more knowledgeable NOW. If we're talking about who has ever been the most knowledgeable about them, the first answer that comes to mind would be the Ancient Kingdom once led by Joy Boy. Their technological level was confirmed to be advanced by the scholars of Ohara, so much so that someone should even consider if devil fruits are a natural phenomenon in the first place. Of course, that's an assumption based on the AK's former glory, so I tried to think of a reason to believe that the AK was actually that advanced. The answer I arrived at was not definitive but enough to strengthen my suspicions. The WG, who's currently the most technologically advanced orgnization in the One Piece universe, how did the become such? The most obvious answer would be Vegapunk. I don't doubt Vegapunk's genius and I'm even a fan of it but in the short span of Luffy's journey, we've seen Vegapunk introduce inventions like ways for Marine ships to cross the calm belt without being attacked by sea kings, how to allow weapons to eat devil fruits, created the formula for SMILES ( which was later stolen by Caesar ) and all of this monumental achievements were presumably created in between breaks from making Kuma the ultimate cyborg and making an army of deadly robots capable of Kizaru level laser attacks. I acknowledge VP's genius but all those achievements in such a short time span made me consider the possibility that he had a head start on some of them. As for what kind of head start, let's travel back in time a bit to see. The WG is the orginization who destroyed the AK. After doing so through brute force and becoming the new de facto powerhouse, what did they do with any possible research AK has done and all of the technology of AK itself? Throw it away? : I think not, I believe they got hold of it to further their own power. Ofc, with it being so advanced, it couldn't do much good for them at first, that is until they found the genius scientist, Dr. Vegapunk. After assuming this, my belief that the AK was at the top research wise was strengthened. Now the question arises, what did said research entail? This is where I want to include haki substantially in the mix. Rather than the simple power up we thought it to be at first, it has turned out to be a product of the soul with several implications under its belt. Those implications are 1) that it can persist through time and 2) that it can be transferable or affected down to its core based on one's connection to others. Let's look at some examples, shall we? :
Here we can see Roger telling Rayleigh that he won't die. At first I assumed it was Roger suggesting that his ideals would live on, but having travelled all the way to Laugh Tale and having possibly caught a glimpse of the AK's "legacy", I suspected that he meant it in a more literal sense than I had first assumed.
When Whitebeard told Teach that he wasn't the one Roger was waiting for, I assumed he meant that Teach isn't the one who'll carry one his ideals but once again, the implications may have been more literal than I thought. Taking what Newgate said at face value, there is a possibility of a remnant of Roger's soul existing somewhere. Is such a thing possible? Let's look at the next picture.
Oden is suggesting the same thing and having gone deeper into the story, he's more upfront about it. Still, how would the soul live on?
I've had the idea for a while but the suggestion that haki can be tranfered to a blade to make it a kokuto ( black blade ) and especially this picture depicting Kaido suggesting that the nine red scabbards' haki somehow contains the late Oden's haki "signature" and it's resonating with the wound Oden inflicted on him in the past, I've started heavily considering that the soul can live on by leaving traces of itself on either objects or other people based on "connections" and "compatibility". It's also a bit ironic that I saved the elephant in the room for last, but we've also seen cases of haoshoku haki being hereditary in cases like Grap / Dragon / Luffy and Roger / Ace. Of course it's not an absolute since there are cases like Chinjao / Sai too but a 3 generation coincidence opens to the mind to the possibility that that familial connection also played a role on top of all 3 Monkey D family members being awesome.
On the subject of haki being capable of sustaining itself, let's talk a bit about the objects that were introduced to us as being "indestructible", the poneglyphs. I just thought of the poneglyphs as objects created by a unique material in the past but is that really the case? The Wano country craftsmen are the ones who created them, and what do we know about the Wano country and its artisans? Wano is the place where even the advanced level of busoshoku haki is not as rare as in the outside world, presumably because they view the base concept of it as "flowing energy" compared to the all so popular view of "armor" of the outside world. And Wano's artisans, besides weaponsmiths, were mostly "stonemasons". Viewing the subject filtered through the recent concept of souls and haki, I believe that the process of creating poneglyphs was different than we had imagined at first. Initially I considered the possibility that the poneglyphs themselves were indestructible but were carved through the use of "kokuto" tools of the highest quality. But it's a rare enough for a sword to become a kokuto, much less a stonemason's tools. So I changed my thinking. What if the poneglyphs are made of common stones, carved by the expert stonemasons of the Wano country and then either "coated" or "injected" with busoshoku haki of the highest class ( presumably the original Joy Boy's ). A supreme expert of busoshoku could have possibly managed to apply its coating applications to an external object or the more likely, managed to inject it inside the object but with no ill will and intents of destroying it, thus making it virtually indestructible instead ( unless it faces an even stronger haki ).
"That's all well and good Yuu but what does it all mean in the context of this theory? Come on, enough foreplay. : " Well, if haki and the soul can be tranfered / inherited / connected to someone and can persist through time, why not devil fruits as well? I believe that's what the AK scientists considered. Whether or not they are the ones who invented devil fruits ( in a way ), I believe their curiosity got the best of them and they tried to go beyond the concept of the traditional "devil fruit". How did they do so, you ask? The answer is simple, Ancient Weapon Class Devil Fruits! In the first place, if you decide to call something a weapon, it means you have at least a certain measure of control over said weapon. I don't think anyone went up to Shirahoshi's ancestor and told her "From now on, you'll be called the ancient weapon Poseidon, best regards". Well, now that we've covered the basic concept of the soul and its implications, let's get right to making the connection between that and the ancient weapons, shall we?
I'll start with this cause it's bascially the simplest one by this point of the story and it's going to help with the other two later on. It has already been revealed to us that Poseidon manifests itself in the form of a mermaid princess every 100 years and it gives her the ability to command sea kings.
But the question is how. Would someone create a gigantic ship that was meant to be carried by sea kings without having the assurance that they'd have the sea kings' assistance? Like I said before, the AK and Joy Boy must have had some assurance that they could "use" Poseidon. And what better assurance than actually creating Poseidon and leaving control to someone you trust. Let's take a look at this picture.
When I saw this picture and while thinking of the aspect of the soul, I got the implication that the AK somehow managed to tranfer the soul of the sea queen, or at least its qualities and "signature" into a specific vessel of their choosing. Did it have to be the mermaid princess of the time? There's no such issue with devil fruits after all. Ah, but there is a fundamental difference between the ancient weapons and normal devil fruits and that is that their powers are inherited throughout the generations and they were presumably creating by tranfering souls / soul traits between individuals and not by consuming a devil fruit. Those facts are most liekly what brought about certain limitations. The limitations most likely being the "compatibility" of the user with the original soul / soul trait due and the time it takes for one to manifest into the world. So I believe that the mermaid princess of the time was the one with the highest compatibility with the soul of the sea queen and that Joy Boy had a personal connection, like Luffy has with Shirahoshi. Plus if anime / movies / Disney has taught us anything, it's that when you invent a world balance destroying power, you seal it in a princess to make her subject to evil plots to acquire the throne / power, assassinations and crown wearing shadows named Im.
I also believe that the reason Joy Boy is apologizing to the mermaid princess of the time in the poneglyph at fishman island is because he had her carry the burden of being the Poseidon of the time ( she was most likely more than willing to do so for him ) and not managing to fulfill the purpose of his own role despite that.
Now then, since Oda has been generous enough to reveal the identity of one of the ancient weapons that is Poseidon, let's use it and make a "Shirahoshi ancient weapon radar" ( I wonder if I should have requested Rio for a special Shirahoshi radar emoji for this : ). I believe that like any such grand weapon, the ancient weapons were created for a specific purpose and revolve around Joy Boy. They revolve around connections that go down as deep as the level of the soul, so let's keep an eye out for any special connections concerning Shirahoshi.
Let's start with what we do know. Pluton is implied to be very tightly connected to Alabasta and we know that it a warship capable of destroying whole islands. At first I thought that it was simply a possibly huge warship that was hidden somewhere at Alabasta, but is that really the case? :
Cobra suggests that if Crocodile had found Pluton, the country would have been his but how would that come about? If Crocodile had hypothetically found Pluton, he'd have a warship capable of mass destruction but why would he limit himself and focus on Alabasta after obtaining an ancient weapon? Isn't it cause the warship is actually Alabasta or the more likely possibility, its capital Alubarna, itself? If that were the case, gaining control over the warship would be like taking control of the land itself.
"But Yuu, can a whole city or country be a warship? : ". Sure, why not. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck and can sail in water while having enough cannons and generally firepower to level islands and make them as smooth as Chaud is with chaudgf and Deathbloke is with Marco Polo : or sink them down to Davey Jone's locker, I think it can be considered a warship : ( I tagged you three specifically for the joke but feel free to read the whole thing ). Plus haven't we actually already caught a glimpse of a country / city that is, or to be more accurate will be, a ship? As we speak, Iceburg is already in the process of turning Water 7 into a ship. And interestingly so, Iceburg is one of the few people who have seen Pluton's blueprints. That's not something that a shipwright of Iceburg's class would forget. So isn't it possible that his daring idea to turn Water 7 into a ship stems from having seen the blueprints of Pluton depicting the same thing having already been done? In my opinion, it's very much so. In fact, the plateau landscape that Alubarna was built on is already making me particularly suspicious since it reminds me of Water 7 somewhat.
"Okay, let's say all the crazy stuff you're suggesting is true Yuu, how can a warship have any relations to the soul?" Ah, but it can. The concept of a ship having a soul in One Piece has not been mentioned much but it's certainly there. Yes, it's what you've probably guessed by now, a klabautermann.
I believe that the soul that was tranfered / connected to the user in question was that of the Pluton's klabautermann. As for whether or not it's still alive, Crocodile's rein may had caused some setbacks but with the Cobra family back on the helm, I think things are looking up for the little klabautermann now. Not to mention that it's probably what has presumably kept the warship operational to this day.
Only one thing remains now, the identity of the "user". This is where our Shirahoshi radar comes in handy. :
Shirahoshi meeting Vivi and getting along so well. To quote Igaram, "what a fateful encounter..." indeed. Not to mention that Vivi is on Im's hit list, like we saw earlier. Vivi also fits the description of "pure maiden" that seems to be the standard between ancient weapons apparently. Vivi being the user of Pluton is probably why her picture was also in Im's hands along with Shirahoshi's. There is one weird point though, the Nefertari family was one of the 20 countries that served as the base of the WG and then became celestial dragons. This is presumably tied to the reason why the Nefertari family chose to remain on the surface and not join the rest of the celestial dragons and the probable connection of the royal family of the time to Joy Boy.
Now how does Pluton fit into the current story though? Well, we've probably began to near the point where Pluton will be introduced slowly. Cobra seems to have been looking the subject up after the incident with Robin and Crocodile.
And shortly after he asked for a meeting with the Gorosei during the Reverie, this is what happens next.
Does that imply that the WG is moving in to get a hold of Pluton? Yes it does. : However, do I think that it will fall into their hands? Possibly but personally I do not think so : . I have reason to believe that the original Pluton will fall into the hands of none other by the person who has a way to "plunder souls" and tranfer them to someone else. The most recent reference would be this.
The newspaper mentions Sabo so at first I thought that Teach was refering to stealing Sabo's flame fruit. But like Sabo said before their raid on Mary Geoise, that mission was "do or die". In the case that he was captured or presumably killed, would Teach even be able to enter Mary Geoise and steal his ability? I don't think so but depending on the information we get about Sabo in latter chapter, it's still a possibility. However, for now I believe that what Teach didn't want to hand to the Marines was instead Pluton. I mean, let's think about this. The Yonko, Roger, Luffy, etc have one thing in common, that would be a proper flagship befitting their respective positions / ranks. In Teach's case...this?
Lol : : , no, I don't think so : . The history of the real life Blackbeard suggests that he commandeered a French slaving vessel and repurposed it for pirating purposes, naming it, as many of you would guess from having watched the 4th Pirates of the Caribbean movie, Queen Anne's Revenge. That pirate ship was regarded as one of the best and was described as being "massive / huge" as well as having 40 cannons on top of plenty space for the crew and the loot. Blackbeard used that ship to wreck havoc for the two years of 1717 and 1718 with it and people would surrender their treasure to him out of sheer fear of the ship's formidability, renown and size. Now, as cool as Teach's raft is in One Piece, I don't think it fits the bill. I expect that Teach will acquire a ship befitting of the flagship of his real life counterpart and I assume that said flagship will end up being Pluton.
Did you think this would be the smallest section of the theory cause we don't know much about this last ancient weapon? Sorry, it's the opposite, this is probably the biggest section. We have no starting point for this ancient weapon so let's start with the user.
Uranus is based on the greek word Ουρανός, which means sky. It's because of this well known fact that many people have assumed that Uranus is an ancient weapon that has to do with the weather and I am no exception. And when you think of the weather, are there any pure maidens who fit the bill that come to mind? Of course, Nami is the first who comes in mind. Let's start from the beginning.
Nami was found by Bellmere at an kingdom called Oykot where Nojiko walked up to her with Nami already in her hands.
The more interesting part about that meeting was that when Bellmere had returned to Cocoyasi village with her two daughters, there was a strong storm being shown in the background with Nojiko and Nami having fevers. Was that a coincidence? Did the two girls get sick during the storm or did the storm happen cause Nami was both young and sick and her abilities run amok. Does that remind you of another young princess? *cough* Shirahoshi *cough*. But before that, there is something else we should focus on. After Bellmere found Nami and Nojiko, she decided to quit the Navy. Is that what most people who normally do? After someone suddenly gets two daughters, your first thought and action would be to quit their job? I don't think so. Of course it could possibly be because Bellmere had to be with Nojiko and Nami to take care of them and for obvious job hazards. But wouldn't the Marines be able to help with her situation if she had remained in the orginization? They probably could have, but having possibly caught a glimpse of Nami's abilities ( most likely from the aforementioned storm ), she probably decided against it, thinking the Marines would exploit Nami's power. Now then, let's use the Shirahoshi radar once more, shall we? :
Similar backgrounds indeed. Apparently all ancient weapon maidens seem to get along quite well with each other right after just meeting. It seems there's way more to Nami than we had originally thought. But wait, wasn't the pattern of the ancient weapon users that of them being princesses? Which country's princess is Nami? The answer to that would be the place where the absolute top powerhouses of the past met and battle for the sake of supremacy, God Valley. Because what else could attract the attention of Roger, Garp and the Rocks at the same time other than something on the class of an ancient weapon?
However, we later learn that after that incident, God Vally disappeared from the map like it never even existed in the first place. Where could a whole island have disappeared off to? To be honest, I'm still considering the possibility that Nami's country has simply not been seen yet and that God Valley was sinked through the use of a buster call level of attack or the more likely, an actual buster call. But for now, I'll stick with the suggestion that it is indeed God Valley, mostly cause of the name. But the question still remains, where did it go? Well, the pattern so far has been Poseidon being at the sea and Pluton on land, so I think it's logical to believe that Uranus will be somewhere in the sky. What drew my attention when I saw God Valley was the castle shaped shadow and the floating clouds surrounding it. Does the description "Floating castle in the castle in the sky surrounded by clouds" ring any bells for you? If you thought Sword Art Online, then sorry, nope ( though it's technically not wrong ). The answer I had in mind was more similar to any Ghibli movie fan out there, as extreme as it possibly sounds, Laputa. Yes, the castle in the sky which is surrunded and hidden by a neverending thunderstorm, which was translated as "Dragon's Nest" due to all the dragon like thunder, which aso happens tobe our favorite navigator's favorite element. In the story of the castle in the sky, Laputa is considered the heart of a very advanced civilization, that should be ringing some bells since One Piece's very own AK was considered to be the same. Another interesting reference is that the material used to keep said castle in the sky floating is called Volucite or Aetherium in the translations. Should that ring any bells? No. But the Japanese might do the trick, the material was called "hikouseki" in Japanese and it means "levitation stone". Kairoseki from the sea and hikouseki from the sky? Yes, it's possible that it will be the introduction of a new material in the One Piece world. Ghimli movies had a big impact on Japanese culture and the castle in the sky is a popular one that has probably been referenced in several games / anime / etc, I think it's a strong possibility that Oda drew inspiration from it as well. And that actually brings us to my next point, we've talked about the location and the user but we still haven't touched the subject of what Uranus actually is.
Since Poseidon was a person and Pluton was a warship ( machine ), many people have hypothesized that Uranus will turn out to be a creature of some kind, and one that will have something to do with the creation of the devil fruits at that. I used to be of the same train of thought but have reconsidered my opinion on the subject. It's not too far off but not quite right. Let's take things a step at a time though.
This is the sunlight tree "Eve", and Nami seems to have an interesting response upon encountering it, like she can feel something from it. I believe that something stems from her possible connection with it. Incidentally, there are two more trees worthy of mention in the One Piece world. The second would be the treasure tree "Adam", which Usopp correctly assumes has a connection with "Eve".
The third tree is the "tree of knowledge of good and evil", the one that the giant tree in the middle of the now destroyed home of our favorite archeologist, Ohara, signified.
All three of these great trees in the One Piece universe have passed by with extremely little notice but I think they deserve more of our time. I think those three are the clues that lead to the all important last one. And interestingly enough, Laputa is also depicted as having a giant tree at its center.
All three trees are a reference to the garden of Eden in Christian religion. Adam and Eve were the first humans and the tree of knowledge of good and evil was the sole tree in the while garden of Eden whose fruit Adam and Eve were forbidden to eat. However, there was one more tree in the garden of Eden that's worthy of note, the "Tree of life". I believe the same tree is the one included in various mythologies as well under a different name, like the Yggdrasil in Norse mythology. I believe this tree to be the living organism that will turn out to be Uranus. I believe that the people who live on the castle in the sky worship Uranus as a deity and the position of what's supposed to be a princess will probably turn into something more of a "priestess". And said priestess will gain the ability to affect / control the weather through Uranus. I also believe it to be the place where we will actually see Nami's biological mother, in contrast to Sanji's biological father Judge during the whole cake island arc.
"But Yuu, can a tree have a soul?". Since it has life, I believe there wouldn't be an issue with it having one but especially so due to the tree of life being a special case, as the name would suggest. But there is one last point I found interesting. The tree of life in Judaism is referred to as the "Tree of souls" and it constantly bears fruit to new souls and gathers them in a treasury of souls. That strengthened the idea that on top of allowing their user to control the weather, Uranus is also indeed the origin of all devil fruits.
Having reached this point, there is only one remaining thing left to talk about. Sure, the AK managed to make the three "Acient Class Devil Fruits" in the sense that they made the three ancient weapons based on the same underlying principles. The result being beings that transcended the devil fruit users and were made with what we can vaguely consider to be the soul of the sea, land and sky as materials. But how does all this relate to Joy Boy? Well, I believe that the concept of Joy Boy in One Piece is a bit different from what I thought at first. Originally, I thought that after the original Joy Boy, the next known one would have turned out to have been Roger and that he simply couldn't fulfill the presumed duty of being Joy Boy due to his illness. Roger is suggested to have been similar to Luffy who's hinted to be the current Joy Boy, and he even became the pirate king. I don't see any way he would be lacking except for one, his connections / bonds with others. The moment I considered that, I arrived at the conclusion that Joy Boy isn't something one is born to be, but rather a position someone has to earn. To quote one of the most badass characters to have ever been created: "One doesn't get acknowledged by becoming Hokage, one can become the Hokage by getting acknowledged". I believe that Joy Boy is something that one can become through their bonds and the three ancient weapons are specific bonds that are required. In fact, it's not like Roger wasn't interested in them, it was just that his illness prevented him from being able to do anything about it.
Can anyone become Joy Boy you ask? Possibly but I think the D. clan and their members are either the prime candidates or the sole ones. Going along that line of thinking, we can see why Luffy is considered to be the forerunner in the race to become Joy Boy, and we can thank his ability to "turn enemies into allies and gather people around him". Like Mihawk said at Marinefold, this is most fearsome power in the seas and now we can see the full potential it holds. But is that all? No, we can now also see another low key reason as to why Teach was looking for the darkness fruit in particular and why he has been built up to be Luffy's main enemy, not to mention that he's also a member of the D. clan and Im had a picture of him along with Luffy's. Teach knew he doesn't have the same ability as Luffy to create bonds that go as deep as to affect the soul, so he switched his way of thinking fundamentally. Through the use of the darkness fruit and its apparent use of altering the soul in certain ways ( since it can be used to steal the devils of devil fruits ), he aims to forcefully create the necessary bonds and ascend to the position of Joy Boy through cunning and strength. I don't know about you guys but I look forward to the answers to all this stuff being revealed : . Thanks for bearing with me and reading the theory : , you probably deserve a banner or something for sticking with it until the end but there's no such banner so you'll have to make do with just a warm fuzzy : .
This was a theory made by yours truly, Yuuzume. :