Gonna transition the conversation over since avoiding spoiler tags makes it easier:
And Byakuya was actually preparing for space in the US and was part of the same project as Xeno, so they were collegues back then. But I don't think there was ever shown any indication, that Byakuya and Xeno were friends. But who wouldn't be a friend with Byakuya, right? XD
Good thing you read things recently. But for sure, Byakuya is totally a person to just become friends with everyone he meets!>
Will see how long will it take to happen (or how easily can Xeno be actually converted) :)
Yea...it's a little strange how smoothly/easily it is going. I was expecting more "resistance" from Xeno's evil side.>
I see trolling as a necessary fun component tho. It's like playing with characters, situations and possibilites at the same time, that's why I consider trolling as an important part of a story developement. If there would be only a pile of scientific teories, fighting and touchy moments, my heart would explode, I need an optimistic strike to lighten up the show. Especially if I talk about Dr. Stone series, which aims to popularize science in a fun, thrilling and enjoyable way - so in this case with no jokes, no spark to me (but that's just my personal opinion, there are ppl who love serious stories more, depands..). And to be even more concrete... Try to look from Kohaku's (and first Chrome's) point of view at that bubble time: Xeno and Senku were throlling, without a question at first glance XD I think making the bubble scene (and many others similar ones) was and is a brilliant way to talk to the fans, like this the difficult information and theories can be digested more easily, that's why I would never say that the throlling is sth meaningless. Actually to sum my thoughts up: Dr. Stone turned "throlling" to sth meaningfu. So it looks like me and you see "throlling" as sth different, but actually agree with each other at the same time, wahah.
Yup, I have a very negative implication of "trolling" => keyboard warriors talking big when they cannot back up what they say. A huge part of the bias is MMA discussion boards where masculine pride was just excessive though, so it is a very biased bias. But for me, the flow of different emotions through a plot and the author's ability to make it seem natural is a huge factor in literary perfection. The most important aspect is monotony. If excellent action is just constant, it looses impact because of experiencing the same things over and over. Stand up comedy has a similar problem that if someone only has "one style" it eventually gets boring even if they come up with higher quality jokes.
I do the see the trolling from your perspective (it is over the top/exaggerated in the "play" in that their facial expressions, body language, etc. is creating this perception that they are just goofing off). Kurara made another great fun science example because this experiment necessitates "playing with bubbles" to accomplish the calculations. I should clarify that the usage is perfect and definitely necessary, I guess I got clarification with trolling not being a negative thing.
It is truth, if the series turns to get too predictable, it may get boring. Tho I think I told you about it before, that I don't find literary perfection to be sth major to consider when deciding if I should carry on watching the series or not in comparison to you. I am a moody person, and if the series strikes my mood well, I love it with all of its pros and cons. And no, it is not my first time seing a beauty, I watched too many to say sth like that XD But I do like it very much, even if I complain from time to time. And if I like sth very much, I am a faithful fan.
Loosing a fun freedom, huh. Well, that is sth inevitable if you want to end the story someday with all breadcrumbs connected. I don't find it boring tho, bcs even when the story is finnished completely, there still can be made several other stories that are inspired by its universe, some non canon works. Imagination has no boundary afterall and another fun may begin~ ^_^ And no, I'm not talking about pervy stuff, I promise But really, even if breadrumbs indicate a very highly possible outcome (which turns the series to be too predictable), you can still play with wild what-if situations to spice the theories for enjoyment. It does not have to be anything certain at all (proven by many breadcrumbs), it's just for fun, and it doesn't have to be taken so literally, nearly scientifically :)
The real test is if literary perfection can be maintained. In theory, it is easy to keep major arcs/key points on the world goal map hidden. Kazakhstan is probably the perfect example. People that didn't read the side story have no idea that this is pretty much guaranteed to be an arc (and probably the most important). We will be able to predict the remaining parts necessary for space travel once we have the majority of arcs completed, but knowing the outline doesn't mean we can predict all key plot points within the arc. Moreover, all of the necessary emotional roller-coaster events are the unconscious "enjoyable" aspects that make the climax reach maximum impact/enjoyment.
Ah, the whole "next generation" is a common cop out to end series/give fan service to keep discussions going for sure. I'm willing to bet the house that experiencing what I'm talking about with Dr. Stone will be key. The amount of fun discussions that can happen is going to skyrocket (and maintain this level for a few years). Once we get the majority of key space travel components in place, the remainder of the plot becomes extremely predictable (again big picture only => if literary creativity is lost, even the chapter to chapter parts become predictable, but extremely unlikely with Dr. Stone). The percentage of a completed puzzle is probably the best analogy. We only have 10-20% of the puzzle pieces in place. We have no idea what the entire picture is going to be. As we get more and more puzzle pieces in place, it gets easier and easier to see what the picture truly is. >
I personally think this chapter might have proven there are various ways of how can human be petrified. Medusa doesn't have to use the same method of petrification as was shown at the start of the series. At least according to the progress of spread, it doesn't seem so. Medusa spreads into a sphere from the centre, in a symmetrical way. The first apocalyptic beam spread equally, step by step till it engulfed the whole Earth surface, there was no sphere of a beam, but sort of a luminous "wave". This wave was approaching like tsunami (tsunami of luminous substance) rather than sound. So Medusa may be sth completely different. I so love this fantastic science of Dr. Stone universe <3
Oh, exactly. This chapter confirms that we have two Medusa mechanics/way of operating. We have the start of the series (this luminescent/wave pattern of petrification) and all of the Treasure Island usages where it is a sphere of light (slight decreases with the chain/line of allies).
Scientifically, sound waves, radio waves, ocean/water waves, etc. all travel/move in the same patterns. So we are talking about the same mechanics. Sound waves was the first thing that popped to mind since I just type my essays out without editing/whatever comes to mind first the vast majority of the time.
Side tangent: because the energy source was so big, there were no displayed delays/altering of the wave (or at least from what I remember in the anime). This also has to be the case since Senku and Xeno's calculations are based on a constant speed of travel. How this massive Medusa attack was created is the biggest mystery, and we might get some answers in this South America arc (i.e. they find a massive machine/base to amplify the Medusa energy).>
Interesting conclusion of theirs was, that even tho they saw light, it was only a side effect of some luminous substance that was dragged by gravity to the surface. The substance was probably volatile enough to get "washed" all around the surface, which explained nicely the symmetrical spread of light (spreading with constant speed) all around Earth. And this fact somehow confirmed, why Byakuya and others didn't get effected in space.
I think I have to go back to the chapter. The results/how everyone got petrified are the above results, 100%, but I don't remember any conclusion by the team of the "matter"/what the Medusa wave is made of. >
Uh, that was long. I just wanted to sum it up, I know you've read it and you know all that already, but by writing it down like this, it helps to imagine, how complicated this chapter was, but at the same time how many more potential it has in explanaining it furhter...
Oh, no I 100% agree. Trying to figure out all of this is huge. All the breadcrumbs are there, but most people will miss things because it is an information overload. A willingness to break it down and piece together is what the manga team wants. Most people won't be willing to do it.
Based on the visual mechanics, the worldwide Medusa wave could not penetrate the earth's atmosphere. We know planes were petrified and crashed (started some of the fires the astronauts saw). So there are tangents that explain why Chrome's comment was needed for Senku and Xeno to proceed on the right path of theorization. Technically, the mechanics they saw already imply making Chrome's assumption, but it is a necessary plot point for Chrome to be accepted (the opposite would have been Senku and Xeno skipping the testing of a bubbles from the start and then telling Chrome: "Duh, we knew that already"). So the chapter fits because Senku and Xeno will test every option first and they were caught up in the spherical pattern (Xeno shouldn't know this since he never saw anything from Treasure Island, but necessary minor disconnect). >
For example - If it was some form of a substance, how could it engulf the whole Earth, if we consider the natural flow of air, various climates, temperature etc.? The most logical explanation so far (to me at least) would be probably some sort of a mass chain reaction that could take action only in presence of a majority substance which is part of air. And that would somehow "explain" how it could spread relatively fast and so evenly. I think Senku and Xeno said, it's not important to research the cause further, bcs their main goal was to get the place of the impact coordinates. I personally think that further explanation lies in South America, that is, if they don't plan to brain-storm in the next chap' too :)
I'm thinking it is just an energy wave. The small medusa creates this wave and just shoots it out in all directions. The medusa we see is like an infinity sign. My brain sees just an "O" shape for the worldwide medusa. There has to be some sort of amplification device (what the team probably finds in my mind). The O shape is because it has to shoot an O rather than a sphere. With the initial O wave being amplified to be the entire height from the earth's surface to the edge of space/earth's atmosphere's top, this is what makes the "round gun" creates a Medusa wave that travels around the entire earth from South America.>
But I have to confess, I can't remember at all, how Senku managed to realize in the past that the beam started in South America... It's probably got to do sth with Why-Man, but I can't remember details, how did the idea came to light...
Off the top of my head, the sparrow/birdies being petrified stemmed from South America. Xeno knows this because he saw Senku's publication of his work online. So Xeno got the results without having to track/test anything.